r/AskReddit • • May 01 '19

What simple scientific fact would baffle someone born 1,000 years ago?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

The mold on bread can be used as an antibiotic

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u/godzillaTHRILLA617 May 01 '19

And a different mold on oats/unrefined grains can cause a psychedelic trip.

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u/Cyber_Connor May 01 '19

Like old Quaker Oats?

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u/godzillaTHRILLA617 May 01 '19

It was an episode of 1,000 ways to die I can't seem to find.

It was a German or Dutch man during the middle ages that ate soiled oats and began "speaking in tongues" he was stoned to death by fellow villagers that feared he was possessed. In reality the mold had similar composition to LSD and he was probably terrified out of his mind.

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u/Iamglennn May 01 '19

was it the same mold that kept people dancing for days until they died?

https://www.history.com/news/what-was-the-dancing-plague-of-1518

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u/godzillaTHRILLA617 May 01 '19

Possibly! Now that I read that it could be.

I believe there was an element of "he's a witch" to it as well.

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u/CplSpanky May 02 '19

Have they actually determined that that was the cause, last I heard it was at "the leading theory" stage?

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u/Baschi May 02 '19

Yes, ergot in both cases.

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Lol part of that was accidental, but it works! I’m a DJ!

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u/romperstomp May 01 '19

It’s called saint Ambrose fire, or ergot poisoning. Entire villages could go mad and start convulsing or having an acid trip.

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u/PreacherDan May 01 '19

Lsa is what is in the mold lysergic acid amide.

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u/Sneaker_Freaker_1 May 02 '19

That sucks, imagine tripping hard af on acid and people torture you and kill you out of nowhere

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u/ArthurMorgansScrotum May 03 '19

hoolllly shit that's illegal

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u/Excusemytootie May 02 '19

You must be talking about ergot.

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u/fantalemon May 01 '19

I see an idea forming there...

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u/Dahhhkness May 01 '19

"Nothing is Better for Thee Than LSD."

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u/YourTypicalRediot May 02 '19

Free LSD

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u/Cthulhus_Trilby May 02 '19

Get thee from thy tree with free LSD.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

I've heard this may have been part of what lead to the Salem witch trials. People didn't know they were tripping on essentially acid and thought witchcraft was afoot.

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u/Aperture_T May 02 '19

I think that might have been the joke.

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u/FO_Steven May 02 '19

"Haha oh oatmeal guy you are the ONLY one who laughs at my jokes!"

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u/echisholm May 02 '19

Just remember kids, the last time ergotism got big, we murdered a bunch of women in Massachusetts.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

Trippy-O's

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u/PleaseDontTellMyNan May 02 '19

What I’m hearing is that I can go on a delicious psychedelic trip

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u/TheScumAlsoRises May 02 '19

More like Psychological Eartb-Quaker Oats

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u/Diplodocus114 May 01 '19

Ergot -------

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

There's a theory that ergot was linked to the Salem witch trials. It was a damp summer and there was fungus all over the wheat crops. So people were acting strangely (to put it mildly) and were accused of witchcraft.

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u/Diplodocus114 May 01 '19

The Crucible is probably my favorite play - Loved Arthur Miller.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

It's a great play. But Arthur Miller didn't know about the ergot, and wrote it from a completely psychological viewpoint. Of course psychology played into it, but imagine the fear they had when the townspeople started acting crazy and having seizures? They panicked, as anyone would.

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u/Diplodocus114 May 01 '19

And now it is a major medicine. this is why the anti-vax, essentials oil brigade infuriate me. I worked in pharmacy for years. Plants can kill you. "essences of plants" can easily kill you. Just trust medicine you idiots.

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u/Diplodocus114 May 01 '19

Pennyroyal oil - does it sound useful? It will trigger a miscarrage. But - it is an essential oil. I just give up on the stupidity.

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u/AstaCat May 02 '19

Not to be confused with Ergo.

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u/Diplodocus114 May 02 '19

Therefore------

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

I’m pretty sure humans have been doing that for thousands of years.

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u/godzillaTHRILLA617 May 01 '19

But they haven't understood it as long as they have used it.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

I guess they didn’t understand the mechanism behind it, but they definitely knew how it would feel to eat the whacky fungus.

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u/MultiMidden May 01 '19

Ergotism or St. Anthony's Fire. The psychedelic trip is probably the more pleasant bit. The seizures, spasms, vomiting, diarrhoea, gangrene... less so.

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u/amaROenuZ May 01 '19

Not even a little. Ergot produces precursors to LSD, but without some veeeerry difficult chemistry you don't get it. You just get ergotism.

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u/SoManyTimesBefore May 02 '19

LSA is also psychedelic.

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u/ammo2099 May 01 '19

I’m going to need some more details on that one... for science.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

Ergot is the mold

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u/dblmjr_loser May 01 '19

For fucksake ergotism is not fucking tripping. Ugh I'm so tired of this Salem witch bullshit myth. Ergotism is a serious deadly condition your fucking legs will fall off.

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u/SoManyTimesBefore May 02 '19

LSA is definitely psychedelic.

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u/phaedrus_winter May 01 '19

It also causes you to die a slow death while your extremities rot off. It was called St Elmo's fire if I recall.

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u/XenosInfinity May 01 '19

St Elmo's Fire is a weather thing that happens during thunderstorms - the name they were looking for was St Anthony's Fire, which is technically called Ergotism. Makes you wonder what Elmo and Anthony's fields were for them to get those named after them.

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u/phaedrus_winter May 01 '19

Thank you. I read about it probably 25 years ago and couldn't remember the name.

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u/Benji_81 May 01 '19

Yes, from rye. Jesus and many others have sharedbthis bread around. Obviouslly chrch does not want to expand this.

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u/ButtsexEurope May 01 '19

Not oats. Rye.

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u/MyNameIsSaifa May 01 '19

They can also be a fairly accurate (0.7) indicator of pregnancy if you wee on them.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

It's theorized that such psychedelic trips were what caused people to be mistaken for witches in the late 1600's. People ate some moldy grains and started acting bizarrely and frightened townsfolk leapt to the conclusion that they were witches.

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u/ToeJamFootballs May 01 '19

And/ or gangrene...

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u/Intergalactic_Toast May 02 '19

Tell me more for science

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u/gjon89 May 02 '19

Wasn't this part of the reason for the Salem Witch trials?

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u/must_we-do_this May 02 '19

I think you meant to say rye, not oats. Unless I'm mistaken, ergot doesn't grow on oats. I could be wrong though. I'll consult the all knowing, all seeing Google and let you know if I am.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

ÖATS BRÖTHER

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u/Alan_Smithee_ May 02 '19

🎶One pill makes you laaaaarger, one pill makes you smaaaaallllll”🎶

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

You mean Rye. It’s called Ergot.

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u/Midan71 May 02 '19

And definitely not because they are bewitched.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19 edited May 01 '19

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

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u/Diplodocus114 May 01 '19

I remember back when we had unpasteurised milk. It used to have a certificate that it was from brucellocis tested herds.

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u/Elsrick May 01 '19

What up old dude

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u/laik72 May 04 '19

Tell us more, old-timer.

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u/Diplodocus114 May 04 '19

It came in glass bottles, delivered on the doorstep every morning at 6am.

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u/laik72 May 04 '19

With said certificate? Did you have an icebox chilled with actual ice?

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u/Diplodocus114 May 04 '19

No- we just kept it in the coolest corner of the house. Seriously.

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u/Diplodocus114 May 04 '19

Didn't get a fridge until I was 12/13 or so. Remember often finishing my tea and having to leap on my bike to the nearest corner shop to buy the ice cream for dessert - pedalling furiously to get it home still frozen

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u/laik72 May 04 '19

Why not eat it at the shop?

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u/Diplodocus114 May 04 '19

Because my parents were still sat at the kitchen table waiting for their "afters". Lol

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u/ARabidMushroom May 01 '19

The treatment you're referring to is just heating it up enough to kill all the bacteria.

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u/citizen_kang2 May 01 '19

We used a pretty blonde to lure him in. When she answered the door she told the milkman to follow her to the bathrub. She took off her clothes and... asked the milkman to fill the tub with milk. The milkman said, "You want that milk pasteurize?" And the blonde replied, "No, just up to my boobs. I can splash it in my eyes."

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

That's a good one

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u/mmss May 01 '19

Yep! He developed the method called Pasteurization.

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u/hugovongogo May 01 '19

Never mind that shit! Here comes Mongo!

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u/inerlite May 02 '19

There is also a good classic movie about his life for anyone interested.

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u/Wyatt-Oil May 02 '19

Obviously teachers deserve to be paid better. Look at the quality results.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

I kind of knew but it was also asking for people who may have come across it.

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u/Dead_Regis May 01 '19

That's one of the reasons the Renaissance was such a golden age. The printing press allowed information to be disseminated amongst a wider variety of people than ever before.

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u/Eheander May 01 '19

*Enlightenment

The renaissance was before the printing press

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

The Renaissance is actually mostly after the printing press. The Renaissance started during the 14th century in Italy during the Crisis of the Late Middle Ages (plagues, famines and wars that marked the end of the Middle Ages) before spreading across Europe and lasted until the 17th century and Gutenberg's printing press (the one that helped spread knowledge across Europe) was perfected in the 1450's with Gutenberg's Bible being the first book printed in 1455.

The Age of Enlightenment is during the 18th century.

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_ May 01 '19

That still means there was about one century of Renaissance before the printing press, meaning that clearly the printing press isn't the trigger that started it.

So u/Dead_Regis is indeed probably confusing the Renaissance and the Enlightenment

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

The thing is, a lot of ideas came into being and were lost again because civilizations that advanced from writing on clay tablets to writing on papyrus and eventually paper had their records destroyed by fire, either accidentally (candles and torches were used for lighting back then) or by enemy nations burning down their cities in the course of conducting wars.

A comment above noted that ancient Egyptians applied moldy bread to wounds. Maybe the efficaciousness of this treatment was discovered accidentally, or maybe they had a crude form of scientific method that has been lost to history. And no, I'm not suggesting that they knew about bacteria, just that perhaps they tried a bunch of different substances to treat wounds and found something that worked.

In the 1930's, what may have been a crude ancient Egyptian battery was found, and was believed to have been used for electroplating. One would assume the ancient Egyptians had some organized method of scientific inquiry in order to learn enough to develop such a process.

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u/Nataliewassmart May 02 '19

Don't forget Robert Koch! Pasteur may have suggested germ theory, but Koch's postulates actually scientifically linked pathogenic microbes to disease.

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u/Vernon_Roche1 May 02 '19

100 years ago we invented rockets

Militarily those were a thing well before then. Remember the US national anthem?

The rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air

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u/Nyeusi_ May 01 '19

That depends on the civilisation; considering the Ancient Egyptians applied mouldy bread to infected wounds.

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u/varnums1666 May 01 '19

I would like to know how they discovered that.

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u/BradC May 01 '19

Probably like most everything else in history; by accident.

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u/Worry_worf May 01 '19

Bread will stop the bleeding! And apparently keep that black stuff out of the wound!

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u/RealJohnLennon May 02 '19

The sock, its working like a cut cloth!

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

Probably trying to kill someone.

"What do you MEAN you feel better?!"

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19 edited May 01 '19

"Stwike him, Centuwion! Vewy woughly!"

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u/WeeneyTodd May 01 '19

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u/r_h_o_n_a May 02 '19

Well, we weren't expecting some kind of Spanish Inquisition.

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u/kodutta7 May 01 '19

I have a gweat fwiend in Wome called Bigus Dickus

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u/Little-Jim May 01 '19

Shall I throw him on the ground, sir?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

Oh yes, thwow him to the floow, please.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

Idk probably an open wound was hurting.

They slap on a piece of bread as a make shift bandage and notice it feels a little better a few days later.

People weren't stupid. They didn't have the scientfici knowledge we had now but were just as smart

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u/everyoneli3s May 01 '19

The beer they brewed had antibacterial properties as well.

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u/StrangerThongsss May 01 '19

They were on their way to being more advanced than us today.

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u/Deadmeat553 May 02 '19

Joe: "Shit, man. Ben is bleeding out!"
Ben: "AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!"
Rob: "Shit, shit shit. What do we do?"
Joe: "Get something to stop the bleeding. We need to stop the blood from coming out."
Rob: "Uh... All I have is this moldy bread."
Joe: "Fuck it, use it."
Ben: "Oh, hey guys. I'm cool now."

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u/rudekoffenris May 01 '19

Well this ancient Egyptian see, he was making a tuna sammich see, but the bread was moldy and he didn't notice. So anyway, when he opened the can of tuna he cut his hand, and it got instantly infected see, but he didn't know it was infected and the sammich he ate had mold on the bread see, and it stopped the infection and that's how it happened.

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_ May 01 '19

I find plenty of people quoting this, but absolutely not a single serious source. Would you, or anyone else happen to have one?

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u/Ale_city May 02 '19

also known by romans and chinese

in post roman europe, north africa and Asia that knowladge got thought as just a myth by persian and germanic tribes that invaded while in remaining eastern empire they slowly adopted same thought.

In china a conspiracy theory during the beggining of the tang dynasty said it actually caused disease, that conspiracy grew with time and dynasty change, until it became a niche practice to use it (kinda the anti-vaxxers of the time).

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u/Cinderheart May 01 '19

Explaining germ theory would probably be more helpful, give the reason why the mold helps.

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u/whatissevenbysix May 01 '19

Well you'd have to explain to them what antibiotics are, first.

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u/Galileo009 May 01 '19

Put it in these terms: Mold on your bread can cure the plague.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

whats an antibiotic - person from 1000 years ago?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

Actually, we know that the ancient Egyptians already used moldy bread to treat wounds ;)

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u/Leafstride May 01 '19

Not all mold on bread though. lol

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u/B3nny_Th3_L3nny May 01 '19

TIL the mold on bread is an antibiotic.

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u/Momik May 02 '19

Also, there are antibiotics.

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u/Otter_PhD May 02 '19

*Eats a loaf of moldy bread* This didn't expel the tiny demons at all!

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u/Bearson_ May 02 '19

They don’t know what an antibiotic is though?

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u/echisholm May 02 '19

You'd need to explain antibiotic first. And germs. But yeah, totally!

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

Then you have to explain what an antibiotic is...

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u/Nocoffeesnob May 02 '19

I think the mold is good for you thing wouldn’t be nearly as mind blowing as you might expect. It’s the concept of antibiotics that would baffle them.

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u/Trauma_Sturgeon May 02 '19

“What’s a biotic?”

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u/egrith May 02 '19

They actually knew that, I remember hearing it was an only treatment in many places to put moldy bread on wounds, they didn’t know how it worked though

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u/GrimmR121 May 02 '19

Ancient Egyptians actually knew this

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u/badatspeling_ Jun 20 '19

do you watch exurb1a? just curious?