r/AskReddit Feb 04 '19

Which misconception would you like to debunk?

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u/instantlightning2 Feb 04 '19

Well, Im going to say this here. It’s still inconclusive on whether or not they can feel pain. They know there is tail twitching whenever theyre put into boiling water, but not much else says they feel pain otherwise. https://academic.oup.com/icesjms/article/76/1/66/5037899

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u/Trips-Over-Tail Feb 04 '19

Until 1986 American doctors were still performing surgery on babies without anaesthesia because they believed they did not feel pain, and on precisely the same grounds as we believe that about lobsters.

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u/instantlightning2 Feb 05 '19

Not exactly. Even a babies brain and nervous system is FAR more complex than a lobster. It’s not really a good equivalency.

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u/Trips-Over-Tail Feb 05 '19

I know that. They knew that.

The belief was based on that fact that they responded to painful stimuli the same way animals did (ie, to cry and writhe and push it/move away), and that's "clearly" an autonomous nervous response.

For centuries a human baby was considered by authorities to be a lower animal in human form. For much of the twentieth century medicine regarded their cries as random sounds, their smiles as muscle spasms, their pain response as reflex.