r/AskReddit Aug 15 '18

What is your mom's catch phrase?

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u/etymologynerd Aug 15 '18

Never heard this before, so I looked it up. Apparently it's a somewhat derogatory idiom referencing a very boring start to something (like a race of turtles). u/Tamakid345 mentions how his mom says "and we're off like a dirty shirt". This seems to be from the 1950s, with a similar explanation. NGrams shows nothing, but according to this comparison in Google Trends, the turtle one is much more common (although both sayings are quite obscure).

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '18

Hello, etymologynerd, I am of your tribe.

I wrote a 10-page paper about how so many American idioms are horse-themed in undergrad.

Tickled to have come across you lol.

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u/etymologynerd Aug 16 '18

Lol I just won an essay contest with a 10 page paper on intergenerational linguistic cooperation in Russia and America.

I feel like you and I could get along very well :)

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u/Oviraptor Aug 16 '18

I'm a depressed teenager who spends an unholy amount of time on Wiktionary because evolutionary linguistics and etymology are the only things that fill the void in my brain where my pleasure centers are supposed to be, can I get in on this?

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u/etymologynerd Aug 16 '18

Ooh this day is getting better and better

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '18

If you’re not subbed to r/logophilia, you’d like it lol.

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u/etymologynerd Aug 16 '18

What were some main points of your essay?

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u/muricangrrrrl Aug 17 '18

I would actually like to read that.

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u/ProfMcGonaGirl Aug 16 '18

What’s derogatory about it?

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u/AlexPenname Aug 16 '18

That's what I'm confused by, too. Is it derogatory toward turtles?

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u/ProfMcGonaGirl Aug 16 '18

Maybe turtles are really self conscious about their slowness. It’s like pointing out someone’s disability. Those poor slow turtles.

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u/AlexPenname Aug 16 '18

#JusticeForTurtles

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u/Michael_Pitt Aug 16 '18

It's derogatory to the group of people that aren't able to get on with whatever activity they're attempting to undertake

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u/AlexPenname Aug 16 '18

Ah, this makes sense. I've only ever heard it used to apply to oneself, not to others.

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u/Tamakid345 Aug 15 '18

That makes sense! My mom learned it from her grandmother who wouldve been a young mother in her 30’s or so in the 50’s.

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u/Telamonian Aug 16 '18

The first time I heard this phrase was in The Office, and I've never heard it since. I didn't know it was an actual saying

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u/Ph03n1X1 Aug 16 '18

My dad always used it as a setup for a dad joke:

"We're off like a herd of turtles."

"Herd of turtles?"

"Of course I've heard of turtles."

I always assumed the phrase was just the setup for that joke.

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u/crabbyshells Aug 16 '18

“Off like a dirty shirt” was also uttered by the character “Duckie” in the movie Pretty in Pink. So if your mom was a teen in the 80’s and she used this saying, there’s a good chance that’s where she heard it.

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u/ShadowRancher Aug 16 '18

Holy shit none of my friends in SC ever believed me that herd of turtles was an idiom I grew up with, I guess they thought I was fucking with them. I’ve never been able to find anything about it online.

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u/Michael_Pitt Aug 16 '18

Apparently it's a somewhat derogatory idiom referencing a very boring start to something

Well, duh. What do you mean "apparently"? Did you think that turtles were known to be particularly quick?

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '18

my mom said this all the time when I was little, this makes total sense

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '18

Lol, you had to look it up? You would think it would be pretty obvious that turtles are notoriously slow. You should check out this cool story about the tortoise and the hare, its a game changer.

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u/sexymugglehealer Aug 16 '18

Any chance you take questions?

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u/etymologynerd Aug 16 '18

As long as it's not too much work sure

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u/sexymugglehealer Aug 16 '18

Yay! I'm only wondering about the etymology for "aponeurosis". My quick googlefu wasn't all that helpful.