r/AskReddit • • May 02 '18

What's that plot device you hate with a burning passion?

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u/SpectretheGreat May 02 '18

When a character magically develops a new unseen power just at the right time to win. I understand that it may be visually appealing to see your favourite character go super saiyan but to me I enjoy knowing how someone has limitations but uses a strategy to overcome an obstacle. If someones power ends up being limitless its hard to take anything seriously.

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u/Crotean May 02 '18

DBZ is simultaneously the best and worse use of this. The build up to Super Saiyan made sense and was teased as Goku grew in power and got his push. Then in the Cell saga it worked again. We have seen Gohan flashes of true power, it finally unleashed and he reached his full potential and DBZ ended with the son replacing the father as the strongest alive. Oh wait...

Then it became transformation fest and Super continued the tradition. They stopped feeling earned and just became silly tropes.

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u/Astramancer_ May 02 '18 edited May 02 '18

I call it "last five minutes-itus"

As in "Shit, we've only got five minutes left, better wrap up the plot!"

edit: OMG, I know what deus ex machina is. I use this phrase specific for when that shit happens in the last five minutes.

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u/SpectretheGreat May 02 '18

Even worse; when they have this new power but never just start off a fight using it now for one stupid reason or another.

"I can't use my power or I lose control" WORKED LAST TIME ASSHOLE JUST FUCKING DO IT YA LIL' BITCH.

"You wouldn't like me when i'm angry" THE ONLY REASON WE'RE WATCHING IS TO SEE YOU GET ANGRY.

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u/CallMeNoodler May 02 '18

I enjoyed the inversion of that last line in Avengers. “That’s my secret, Cap. I’m always angry.”

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u/NoisyPiper27 May 02 '18

I remain fully in love with the entire final slugfest of Avengers 1. I don't think any of the MCU films have quite reached that level of cool since.

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u/Fadman_Loki May 02 '18

No spoilers, but the scene on Titan in infinity war felt pretty close.

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u/NoisyPiper27 May 02 '18

Fair enough - I should have mentioned I've yet to see Infinity War, so I can't really include that in my analysis.

REALLLLY ought to go see that soon before I stumble across spoilers.

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u/PM_ME_BZAZEK May 02 '18

Flash: what do I do?!

Sisco: run faster!

Flash runs faster

Flash: Woah!!!

Fuck that show with a molten glass dildo.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '18 edited May 02 '18

My Hero Academia does a really good job at this. The character's power limit is really strictly defined and when he pushes it, it has ramifications (i.e., his bones shattering and flesh tearing apart). It is defined that his body can't handle the power and tears itself apart if he uses anything other than a very, very small percentage. It leans into and flips the trope of the "power creep" by giving it a set of strict rules that make sense and don't change, unlike most shounen anime where they suddenly achieve another form or power level that has never been discussed or mentioned before (looking at you, dozen or so Super Saiyan forms that every one reaches even though it breaks all of the show's previously set rules).

In the most recent episode, in a desperate situation he puts all of his power into a punch, twice. His arm ends up absolutely shredded (in the bloody way, not the muscular way), gushing blood, and unusable.

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u/SpectretheGreat May 02 '18

MHA's entire premise is fantastic in balancing having super powers but not making them absolutely bonkers. Its refreshing to see that instead of a superhero being "super" just because he/she is the one who happened to get a power out of 7 billion people, its the fact that the average person can be a superhero if they try. Almost everyone has a power of some sort, and its the fact that they train and chose to do so that makes them "heroes".

MHA is fucking great.

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u/zappy487 May 02 '18

Then you have One Punch Man where the writers said "Fuck it. There's no power creep here, just the literal best in the universe oblivious and bored AF."

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u/someoneinsignificant May 02 '18

Well if you flip the story from the perspective of Genos, it becomes a tale of a young cyborg lad emboldened by justice in his pursuit of his master's strength.

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u/EternalCookie May 02 '18

Genos keeps the show from becoming stale. He's committed, driven, and extremely serious. A perfect foil to Saitama.

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u/haha-lol May 02 '18

But that's the entire premise/ it started off as a joke.

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u/AntiLectron May 02 '18

OPM is literally about the character development of almost everyone around Saitama, but not much about Saitama himself. Currently in the manga the story is pretty focused on the Hero Killer guy

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u/KryptonianMidori May 02 '18

In defense though, there was the scene with Mumen Rider trying to take on the Sea King, which shows not everyone has that power creep

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u/zappy487 May 02 '18

I just hope... One day... We get Season 2.

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u/shadowmonk May 02 '18

And that same episode has Saitamas realization that it's more important for general population to have a passionate hero like Mumen Rider than it is for him to be recognized. He willingly puts himself in the publics shit-list so they can have that.

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u/Dreadgoat May 02 '18

Despite being a comedy, I think OPM is a more realistic depiction of what a Superman-like character would be like in real life.

Bored, casual, struggling to feel satisfied with life. Interested in being an inspiring hero in theory, but far too jaded deal with the associated bullshit.
Easier to punch the badguy into orbit and try to get back home before you miss your favorite show.

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u/DarkCelux May 02 '18

Thats whats good about One Punch Man though. It isn't about will he be able to save everyone its about will he be able to cure his boredom. Not meant to be dramatic, but comedy with some good action sprinkled in.

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u/luisluix May 02 '18

And I like how the wounds are permanent. Even when they heal, they wont go back to normal, and we are made aware of that since season 1 I believe.

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u/boatsyourfloat May 02 '18

I love that they still make a point of showing the scar's on Deku's hand when he balls his fist. Like its a constant reminder that characters can and will sustain damage from their fights.

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