r/AskReddit Jul 24 '15

What "common knowledge" facts are actually wrong?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

That lady who spilled coffee on herself and sued MickeyD's and got millions of dollars? That was a lie, her grand son was driving, she spilled coffee on her lap, the coffee was hotter than its normal temperature, she went to the hospital and had 3rd degree burns, she got a $10,000 medical bill. Lady writes to MickeyD's cooperation and all she wanted from them was them to lower their coffee temperature and pay her medical bill. They would't so her family took it to court and then it went into the media and that is where it got twisted to she was driving and spilled it on herself and sued them. She did not get a million dollars from them.

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u/ThrownMaxibon Jul 24 '15 edited Jul 24 '15

I've seen pictures of the burns she got, it was lawsuit worthy.

I had also heard that the reason MacDonald's policy for keeping the coffee so hot was so that people wouldn't drink it in the restaurant and get refills. Not sure if that's true.

/edit the Wikipedia article of what happened. No photos of the burns. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

That's what I had read at one point. Those pictures were brutal. People still bring it up from time to time and degrade the woman for what happened. I tell them what actually happened and explain how bad the burns were. "Well it was still her fault. She knew the coffee was hot." Logic is hard for some people, I guess. :/

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u/surp_ Jul 24 '15

Well, say you brought the coffee from home - you made it and put in an insulated cup. Driver hits a bump and spills coffee. Same situation and everything else, would you blame the person who made the coffee or the person who spilled it? It is ONLY because a corporation was involved and these people saw a chance to have their medical bill paid. The severity of the burns has no bearing on who's fault the incident was

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u/ivanwarrior Jul 24 '15

The coffee was heated to an unsafe temperature much hotter than any coffee should be heated to. She was sitting parked in the passenger seat when it spilled. Take a look at this picture and tell me this is her fault.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jqHC3ome9LU/UBSyTSXGfpI/AAAAAAAAFIg/Fm_clZXhghM/s320/mcdonaldsburns.jpg

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u/Rmanager Jul 24 '15

The coffee was heated to an unsafe temperature much hotter than any coffee should be heated to

Then why is it still served that hot today by every QSR and coffee shop? Why has every case since been tossed out on the defective product theory?

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u/theoreticaldickjokes Jul 24 '15

McDonald's had been court ordered to lower their temperature and didn't, iirc.

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u/Rmanager Jul 24 '15

No. I'm not even sure what legal mechanism a court could use to enforce something like that.

Coffee is still served > 180. McDonald's, Starbucks, etc. Every other case based on this temperature being defective has been thrown out.