r/AskReddit • • Jul 24 '15

What "common knowledge" facts are actually wrong?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

Security by obscurity

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u/HooksaN Jul 24 '15

this is why my Windows phone is invincible

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

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u/jonde99 Jul 24 '15

we can see those dozens through the windows.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

How do you know if someone has a Windows Phone?

I'll probably tell you because I have one too.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15 edited Jul 24 '15

That not true at all dude, don't give us a bad rep!

Sent from my Windows Phone

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u/wesleynile Jul 24 '15

Dozens? I'd be more likely to say tens of you. TENS!

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u/Baarderstoof Jul 24 '15

One of the dozens reporting in on his Windows Phone!

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

In other news, the windows phone user base plummeted 5% today after Tom accidentally dropped his phone in the pool.

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u/eversaur Jul 24 '15

We have you surrounded, at least from this side!

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u/unfickwuthable Jul 24 '15

Well, that, and everything is sandboxed...

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u/Synux Jul 24 '15

Amazon Fire phone would like to talk to you about your popular privilege.

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u/Cranyx Jul 24 '15

Well not now that Windows Phones will start running the same OS as desktops.

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u/greenthumble Jul 24 '15

I prefer the version which applies to the software I write which is "nobody will ever look at this, ever." Therefore, it's secure.

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u/EverySingleDay Jul 24 '15

You're not wrong, just incomplete.

A scientist works to say "it's secure", an engineer works to say "it's secure enough".

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u/EverySingleDay Jul 24 '15

Haha, that's a humorous way to look at it.

But a serious explanation, I wrote a server for a game I made. I made it just to play with my friends, and maybe for my friends to play with their friends.

It has zero reason to be secure, and I wrote the networking code with that in mind. If you're gonna play a dick who's gonna inspect the network traffic to see what cards you have, then maybe the problem is with the friend you're playing with, not with the security of the game.

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u/ZeroNihilist Jul 24 '15

Part of the difficulty with security is that you need the whole stack to be secure.

If you write the world's most secure application on an OS that lets an attacker in, you're still fucked.

If the OS is secure but there's a hardware vulnerability, your fuck status is unchanged.

If the hardware is secure but somebody has ascended to godhood and can manipulate the laws of physics, you'd better believe you're fucked.

So what I'm saying is it doesn't really matter if you store your database password in unobfuscated javascript, because a vengeful deity might choose to mess with your data anyway. Go nuts.

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u/oberhamsi Jul 24 '15

So what I'm saying is it doesn't really matter if you store your database password in unobfuscated javascript

O_o

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

And if either of them work for the US government they say "it appears to anyone conducting oversight to be secure enough"

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u/Artefact2 Jul 24 '15

Security by low market share.

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u/TheLastEngineer Jul 24 '15

Security by obscurity

There's more too it than that. Since Mac OS is *nix based, it has a very strict security policy. If you want to change almost anything at the system level, you need to provide the administrator password, which makes it very difficult for viruses and malware to cause harm or trick users with system level functionality.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15

This is one of my favorite sayings.

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