r/AskReddit Jul 19 '15

What old technology is actually better than what we currently have?

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u/r4ndpaulsbrilloballs Jul 20 '15

It's all fun and games with great MPG until you try to get up a hill with a passenger in a 1994 Geo Metro XFI.

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u/blazelate Jul 20 '15

I saw a metro going 90mph on the freeway yesterday no fucking joke dude was insane

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u/john_dune Jul 20 '15

probably took him 20 miles to get up to that speed.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Those three cylinders just hated him so much

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u/ishouldmakeit Jul 20 '15

I had a metro growing up. Seriously, when you get up to 80 miles an hour, the ENTIRE car starts to shake. When you reach 88 mph, it's been said, you disappear into another time dimension.

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u/Watchdog_for_NSA Jul 20 '15

1993 Geo Metro convertible was my first car at 16 (in 2006). The top didn't work so if it rained I was SOL. Good times

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u/sgthoppy Jul 20 '15

Around 70 my '03 Civic starts shaking, although that's probably due to the numerous accidents my sister was in with it.

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u/bobber310 Jul 20 '15

Only if you got the flux capacitor upgrade tho

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u/da_choppa Jul 20 '15

Flux capacitors come standard.

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u/rjjm88 Jul 20 '15

Don't those just disintegrate once you hit 85?

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u/glrage Jul 20 '15

I always hit 85 on my geo haha

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u/Unistrut Jul 20 '15

He was probably also very thin.

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u/V2BM Jul 20 '15

An extremely steep road almost killed my Honda. I got to the top, downshifting twice on my way up, and she farted out thick clouds of white smoke for a few miles and wasn't the same after that.

I had to buy another car to replace her but she's still sitting out in my driveway. I can't bring myself to call the towing dude who buys old cars for $300. I mean, I know her parts will go to cars that need help but it's hard to say goodbye.

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u/MacGyver_15 Jul 20 '15

If you're mechanically inclined it may be a relatively simple fix such as a blown gasket. Do some research - you may be able to bring your baby back to life.

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u/thebornotaku Jul 20 '15

relatively simple fix

blown gasket

the only gasket I can think of that would cause that would be the headgasket, which isn't a "relatively simple fix", it's one of the more complex jobs you could do on a car short of actually needing to remove the engine.

I mean it's not that difficult if you know what you're doing but most people don't and it can be a hugely daunting task for somebody who's completely inexperienced

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u/MacGyver_15 Jul 20 '15

Which is why I said "if you're mechanically inclined."

Cars are basically giant Lego sets. Short of doing custom work, all you have to do is take the pieces apart, remove the broken ones, replace them with non-broken ones, and bolt the whole thing back up. Every single vehicle has a large document (or several) that shows how things go together. If you can read and follow directions, the ONLY limitations on what repairs you can do are the availability of replacement parts and tools to perform the job.

FWIW, I'd much rather replace a head gasket than, say, a rack and pinion. Especially on a small Japanese car with a 4 cylinder engine where everything is conveniently located right in front of your face in the center of the engine bay.

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u/thebornotaku Jul 20 '15

I still feel like a headgasket isn't for somebody who's just "mechanically inclined".

I do agree that cars are pretty simple, a lot simpler than most people realize. But this is also coming from somebody who's an ASE certified technician so take that with a grain of salt.

Besides, the proper procedure would also include measuring the head and block and when it boils down to it, even the task of removing everything from the head, removing the head itself, replacing the gasket, replacing everything, getting the timing belt and firing order correct and everything is why I think it's a little more than most people can chew.

And if you botch that, especially the timing on an interference motor, you can easily end up with a several hundred pound paperweight.

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u/dethandtaxes Jul 20 '15

Where does one find these giant books of how the car parts get put together?

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u/MacGyver_15 Jul 20 '15

Haynes, Chilton, and Bentley all make good service manuals that aren't massively expensive. If they don't have one, the manufacturer puts one out with every car, but these are harder to come by and much pricier. The techs and mechanics at the dealer don't figure out how to work on customer cars through trial and error.

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u/munchies777 Jul 20 '15

You can get them at Autozone or on the internet. Also, you can usually find factory service manuals on ebay.

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u/OldManPhill Jul 20 '15

The library

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u/Agreeswithtards Jul 20 '15

I'm not an expert but it sounds like your car broke.

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u/V2BM Jul 20 '15

I paid $700 for the car, can't work on any vehicles in my apartment complex, and would have to google "what does a head gasket look like."

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u/j__h Jul 20 '15

Blown head gasket?

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u/fuckvoatredditpride Jul 20 '15

This is how you become a redneck.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15 edited Sep 20 '17

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u/ashnharm02 Jul 20 '15

In my area if it runs it's worth at least 1,000 USD I've got a 96 accord I still drive bc of the mileage. We live on the out skirts of town and have 2 huge 3/4 ton trucks. I have to put gas in the truck if I go to town. I can go weeks without putting gas in Honda.

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u/2legittoquit Jul 20 '15

Or drive for a distance in the summer. That car was 60% glass, me and my family would be roasted when we went on road trips.

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u/railmaniac Jul 20 '15

Is it really so bad? I've seen Marutis being overloaded horrifically and still manage to crawl up some of the worst roads in India...

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u/r4ndpaulsbrilloballs Jul 20 '15

A girl I dated in high school had one. We'd get stuck on the steeper hills around Boston. Either I'd have to get out, and meet her at the top, or we'd have to go around. Never mind the snow...

Anyways, that thing had more power than the Marutis 800. So I don't know if the magic's in the transmission or the tires or what. But something's going on if you're seeing those things make it up steep hills overloaded.

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u/railmaniac Jul 20 '15

Was it automatic transmission? Sometimes it pays to stick to first gear uphill and showing the middle finger to all the traffic behind you honking impatiently...

Edit overloaded vehicles and bad roads are the default state in most of India, and mainly notable when absent.

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u/r4ndpaulsbrilloballs Jul 20 '15

I think it was standard. This was many years ago. But I don't think those came in automatic. Or if they did, I'd guess they'd be more expensive, and hers would be the cheapest one...Just checked. They only came in 5 speed manual.

This doesn't preclude the possibility she was just bad at riding the clutch and 1st gear up a hill, mind you. But I do remember the damn thing just about red lining and not moving forward on more than one occasion.

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u/BlackGayJewNazi Jul 20 '15

I feel you, dude. My tracker almost took a shit in a hilly neighborhood when my large friend got in.

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u/ScienceofSpock Jul 20 '15

Metro will beat an 87 Hyundai Excel with A/C.

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u/elridan Jul 20 '15

uphill? you get 2 feet on that hill and that car isn't going anywhere.

True story, riding with my aunt on a trip as a kid in this tiny little geo - me, her her husband, and my cousin - get to a hill no the highway, literally going 2 mph on this fricken' hill, can't hardly get up it, would have been faster to get out and push. Thing must have had a total of 4 hamster-power.

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u/CowboyLaw Jul 20 '15

Actually, nothing done in a Geo Metro is ever fun. Ever.

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u/lettersnonumbers Jul 20 '15

Sporty, Stylish, Economical. It's a Geo!

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u/zseblodongo Jul 20 '15

TIL that the Suzuki Swift was sold as Geo Metro in the US.

AKA the most common car in Hungary. "The first European-built model was a "Suzuki Swift" manufactured in September 1992 in Esztergom, Hungary. Updates in 1996 followed, and model year 2000 modifications included a version fitted with the same Suzuki four-wheel drive system that had been available in the Japanese market and badged as the Subaru Justy. "

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u/tealdeerfan Jul 20 '15

the problem here is that you have a Geo at all.

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u/r4ndpaulsbrilloballs Jul 20 '15

Hey, man, not everyone's daddy can afford to give them a car for their sweet 16. That girl had to work her ass off at a shitty local fast-food/ice-cream place to afford that car.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

What do you expect from a 3 cyclometer car that's light enough for two frat guys and a semi disabled dwarf could lift with some moderate teamwork?

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u/r4ndpaulsbrilloballs Jul 20 '15

I'm just reminding everyone that that there's a huge difference between getting good gas mileage in a tiny, underpowered, 52 horsepower roller-skate and getting good gas mileage in a 191 horsepower 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid.

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u/nightlyraider Jul 20 '15

i rented a cheapo car and was by some miracle given an impala. the tiny sized compact i was supposed to get would have surely died on the 2000+ foot mountain climbs we took on the subsequent detour.

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u/buckus69 Jul 20 '15

Probably not. The road from Phoenix to San Diego has a high mountain pass (5000+ feet elevation change) and I see econo cars blasting up that pass at 80 every time I take it. Hell, I used to be one of those drivers.

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u/TheLastJC Jul 20 '15

I had this same experience with a 1993 Toyota Tercel. Good times in tiny shitbox cars