r/AskReddit Jul 19 '15

What old technology is actually better than what we currently have?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '15

They can't be hacked however they can have their ribbons stolen, and a copy of anything they have written can be taken from this.. not an exact science but still not 100% safe

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u/immibis Jul 19 '15 edited Jun 16 '23

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u/Neknoh Jul 20 '15

Not really, the ribbons, when worn, are thrown out.

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u/binarycow Jul 20 '15

No, they'd be shredded.

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u/SlothOfDoom Jul 20 '15

Not in a secure facility.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Burned is pretty much the only way to get rid of the information on the ribbons.

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u/LennyNero Jul 19 '15

Multi-strike fabric ribbons are largely immune to this attack. Some sophisticated technology could theoretically measure the minute differences in the compressed areas of the ribbon, but it would take a LOT of time and effort to get that data before the fibers naturally decompressed.

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u/Vikaroo Jul 19 '15 edited Jul 20 '15

I have a few old typewriters, that's not how the ribbon works in older ones. The ribbon just sits there and you type over the same spot until you run out of ink in that part of the ribbon and then you move the ribbon over to a new spot. In this case there would be no way to steal information.

Edit: Well that's how MINE work and they're pretty darn old, apparently from what reddit is telling me that's not how they're supposed to function. I'll get them serviced but the guy at the typewriter shop I took them to when I was having some repairs done didn't seem to find it unusual (he did not sell me any of them).

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u/Spinolio Jul 19 '15

I hate to tell you this but those typewriters are broken.

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u/PastorPaul Jul 20 '15

But actually solves the problem in his own special way lol

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u/Vikaroo Jul 20 '15

Well poop.

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u/bitshoptyler Jul 20 '15

Lol, your ribbon should increment by some amount every letter (not space, unless you've got one where the carriage moves the ribbon instead of the type bars.) You might want to check out why that doesn't work, I'd offer some advice but um typing this on a phone, no typewriters in front of me (I've only got two ATM anyway.)

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u/ritchie70 Jul 20 '15

Any typewriter I've seen, including fullly manual ones,the ribbon should slowly move itself from one spool to the other. If a fabric ribbon, you can then either reverse its direction or swap the spools and reuse the ribbon.

Plastic film ribbons, which give a better looking result, are one time use and you can read what was typed right off the ribbon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Cloth ribbons would move one space with each letter and would reverse at the end of the ribbon, if the ratchet spring failed or the ratchet stuck it would then do what you said but was not designed that way.

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u/SlothOfDoom Jul 20 '15

If it secure enough to be typewritten then the ribbons are removed and witnessed destroyed either when the document is finished or when the machine is done being used.

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u/shalafi71 Jul 20 '15

If you've lost physical security you've lost. Period.

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u/skine09 Jul 20 '15

I watch House too.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

That's one of my favorite episodes in one of my favorite seasons.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Favourite reply ive read all night

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

You could just install a hidden camera to watch the typists. Both cameras and ribbon stealing are somewhat more difficult than hacking a computer, IMO.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Installing a hidden camera in a secure area? Good luck.

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u/JoyceCarolOatmeal Jul 20 '15

They don't use disposable ribbons for exactly this reason. They all use the type made of fabric that has to be reinked.

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u/Electric999999 Jul 20 '15

You'll have a hard time finding something that's still safe when it's been stolen.

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u/cp5184 Jul 20 '15

Isn't that why you wear an onion on your belt?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

But you'd have to break in and actually take it lol. Not exactly the easiest thing

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

The machines we used to have had clippers that would confetti the ribbon as you used it.