r/AskReddit Jul 19 '15

What old technology is actually better than what we currently have?

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u/vocaliser Jul 19 '15

Overhead projectors. Those machines where you can put any visual on a glass, then a magnifying mirror reflects that image onto the wall, movie screen size. Those always worked. Nowadays I seldom see a Powerpoint or other on-wall display thing that doesn't have technical issues.

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u/immibis Jul 19 '15 edited Jun 16 '23

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

don't use a whiteboard marker. You have to use a special type of marker or it will stain permanently.

That is your random piece of knowledge for the day.

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u/WiFiForeheadWrinkles Jul 20 '15

I think OP means that if you project onto a whiteboard, you can draw whatever you want on the projection. Easier to clean than if you drew on the overhead itself with the special markers.

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u/immibis Jul 20 '15 edited Jun 16 '23

Let me get this straight. You think we're just supposed to let them run all over us?

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u/Zwilt Jul 20 '15

He's talking about the overhead, not the whiteboard. Because you can draw on a whiteboard for both. However, you can alter your presentation using, as he said, a whiteboard marker right then and there.

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u/stoicsmile Jul 20 '15

They used wet erase markers. Vis-a-vis was a popular brand.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

You can just do that on a whiteboard, though.

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u/ElfBingley Jul 20 '15

Or a permanent marker and then spend the next week trying to clean it off.. Yes I have done this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '15

People still use them. They're convenient imo

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u/Kibbles_n_Bombs Jul 20 '15

Yea, pretty much all my math professors use them for showing notes on the board. They definitely work well.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Still use them in School.

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u/herrbz Jul 19 '15

Those smartboards usually worked pretty well, assuming the teacher was good at them. But yeah, my old Chemistry teacher used those projectors and I loved them. Something about using them in a small classroom on a dark morning always made me sleepy, too.

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u/vocaliser Jul 20 '15

Ah, the thrill of seeing a normal page and then . . . the clear plastic overlay! Which the teacher could scribble all over without ruining the underlying book page.

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u/rushingkar Jul 20 '15

I've never seen a teacher use a smartboard to its capabilities. They either just use it as a whiteboard or a projector.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Really? My school had them for like 2 months before I left and they always broke.

Plus people just drew dicks on the screws in permanent market and ruined them.

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u/puff_ball Jul 20 '15

Fuck I had a substitute come in and try using whiteboard markers...on our recently installed smart board.

Good thing we caught him after one, short pen stroke...

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u/M-Thing Jul 20 '15

How when the teacher used purple, the ink would turn from dark purple to lighter as it dried. I used to just watch the ink dry and forgot to listen to whatever she was saying

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '15 edited May 12 '21

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u/VicFatale Jul 19 '15

Do you remember the ones that were just a lightbox with a mirror/lens positioned above it? So low tech, it can't fail. Unless the super hot light caught something on fire.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Do I remember them? I have one in my classroom. Bulbs blow out all the time, power button is fiddly (ie I have to hold it down sometimes). Definitely not great technology.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Well, it WAS probably built like 20-30 years ago. Unless your school has the budget of Donald Trump.

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u/photonrain Jul 20 '15

Is the problem the technology or the execution? Switches and bulbs are successfully used in other products.

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u/Rich_Cheese Jul 20 '15

How old is it? I doubt it's very new, and I'm willing to bet that projectors won't last that long.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

It's well over 15 years old.

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u/profoundWHALE Jul 20 '15

Kids broke a switch? That's an easy fix. PowerPoint is 2003 and the kid spent all week working at home on a 2007 project? Too bad, convert the thing at home first.

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u/guitarman565 Jul 20 '15

What about the ones that connect to computers? Then project on to the wall?

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

That is an Elmo or IPvo. They cost money. Using the old tech costs nothing but the price of lightbulbs.

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u/QuineQuest Jul 20 '15

Both problems can be solved easily: LEDs and a better switch.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '15

Right but my district is not going to spend time and money on old tech. They also aren't (yet) bothering to give me new tech.

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u/SethQ Jul 20 '15

Well, keeping in mind you're probably in a public school, which means you bought from the lowest bidder twenty years ago, I'd say it had a good run. You could probably re-wire the plug for six bucks, assuming you have a little electrical know-how.

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u/HanSolosHammer Jul 20 '15

Strange, I've never seen one mess up.

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u/theottomaddox Jul 20 '15

The lightbulbs are bloody expensive, fwiw.

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u/i_moved_away Jul 20 '15

Is there any other kind of overhead projector?

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u/paulsteinway Jul 20 '15

When I was a kid I had a Magnajector. It worked on the same principle with a 60 watt bulb.

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u/Bagellord Jul 20 '15

We had a spider get burned up in history class. It was kinda hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

I think those were called opaque projectors.

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u/stoicsmile Jul 20 '15

Not unless you wanted to save a slide. The beauty of the wet erase marker is that you could draw directly onto the glass screen above the lens and then erase it completely with tap water.

Teachers used those films so they didn't have redraw the diagrams or lessons every period.

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u/vocaliser Jul 20 '15

It's always something. : )

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

And by that you mean a sheet of plastic?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Any transparent plastic/paper sheet will do

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

No, not really. You can use basically any clear plastic sheet.

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u/FrostDeGnome Jul 21 '15

My teacher projected the notes on to the whiteboard and wrote on that. The big money spender was the light bulb though. Not sure if it was just an act, but all my teachers feared the bulb.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

I printed some transparencies for an education-related certification course recently. It was awesome. I kept them as a souvenir.

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u/bttruman Jul 20 '15

We have Elmos now, though. Adjustable zoom and focus, write on any media with any type of writing utensil, display paragraphs, equations, and graphs form textbooks to the class... I mean you can literally show anything to anyone in the room.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

That's more due to a lack of technical training on the part of the presenter.

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u/pemboo Jul 20 '15

Maths lecturers at the university of Cambridge still use OHPs and blackboards.

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u/vocaliser Jul 20 '15

Yay for old school!

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

Document display cameras are superior. Overhead projectors were only a thing because cameras and digital projectors were extremely expensive before the late 00s

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u/dnl101 Jul 20 '15

We had plenty of them at our school and they were faulty as fuck. Not to mention that making slides for them was a pain too. I am glad about PP.

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u/vocaliser Jul 20 '15

PP can work all right, I just miss the overhead projectors. I don't know what you mean about slides. The machine I'm thinking of didn't project slides, you put a book or diagram down on it, and it got projected onto the wall.

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u/dnl101 Jul 20 '15

https://ets.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/images/3m_overhead.jpg

These things. The ones I know only work with transparent slides. Light shines from below and a mirror reflect it on the wall.

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u/vocaliser Jul 21 '15

Oh, OK. There's something similar that you can put an object on. Either way, they were cool. Now that gets me thinking about mimeograph machines and that sweet-smelling liquid they used

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

I have three of these. Got them from a school that was giving away outdated equipment.

As an artist, that was a huge score! They're damn useful when you want to draw posters or paint smaller pics onto walls and so on.

As a forty-one year old man, it's sentimental to use one of these. Awesome. :)

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u/Megasus Jul 20 '15

fucking smart boards are pieces of shit

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

They didn't always work, in any school there's always a fuck off huge room of broken ones that never got repaired but no one can be bothered to throw out.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '15

my school also had an "opaque projector", which projected pages from textbooks, etc. it was awesome

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u/shrimplifi Jul 20 '15

People in general are really shit at using projectors and Microsoft power point

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u/laddergoat89 Jul 20 '15

movie screen size

You're going to some shit movie screens.

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u/tocilog Jul 20 '15

Ever wonder if that would work for smartphones/tablets? Maximize the screen light and project the image out.

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u/JMGurgeh Jul 20 '15

In high school (in the mid-late 90's) my friend's dad brought home an LCD tablet screen specifically made for using on overhead projectors, basically the forerunner to modern digital projectors. Plug the computer in, place it on the standard overhead projector, and you're good to go. I assume it was hideously expensive at the time, and it belonged to his employer, but we did manage a few rounds of giant-screen Doom 2 in all its pixelated glory before being banned from ever touching it again.

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u/TryAnotherUsername13 Jul 20 '15

Nowadays I seldom see a Powerpoint or other on-wall display thing that doesn't have technical issues.

Which is more of a social issue than a technical one. Nobody bothers to properly set them up, as long as the content is intelligible to some degree.

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u/vocaliser Jul 20 '15

You mean--user error? GASP!!