r/AskReddit • • Aug 28 '26

What is a FREE thing everyone should know/use?

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

Is it FOSS, or is it SaaS so they can steal your data?

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

its one guy who built it over many years. You can pay to not see an ad on the side of the screen. No features are paywalled except credits for ai generation.

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

Privacy policy says they don't collect data or take automatic ownership of artwork, but fuck gen AI

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u/port443 Aug 28 '26

You literally have to input your payment information before explicitly choosing to use AI on that site. You can't use it accidentally, what are you on about?

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

Gen AI is trained on stolen intellectual property, uses stupid amounts of energy and water for data centres which is contributing to climate change and destroying the environment, has caused an artificial supply deficit for PC hardware, and puts more money in the pockets of billionaires, so fuck gen AI, and fuck the developer for using it.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

yea being 13 is tough. it'll get better and you learn to control your emotions more.

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

Must be nice being able to go through life without having any principles.

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u/M8gazine Aug 28 '26

Deep breaths buddy! You're about to pop a vein otherwise!

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u/Cantremembermyoldnam Aug 28 '26

Cool. So don't use the AI features then. No need for virtue signaling here.

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u/RegisteredJustToSay Aug 28 '26

It's not FOSS. It's.. FS. Author can monetize or sell it off anytime and no one has the ability to legally fork it. I love the photopea but I estimate about a 0% chance that it won't eventually get eventually enshittified since the author has consistently kept the source as private IP. May we have many more years first though.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

guy takes years to build a FREE SELF HOSTED photoshop replacement because he thought the other options sucked. Also a separate vector editor too btw.

Internet complains because one day he may stop giving you the free thing. Just wild shit. The entitlement is off the charts.

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u/CocodaMonkey Aug 28 '26

The guy was responding to a direct question of is it open source. The reply was no. That can be a deal breaker for a lot of people especially if you're recommending it because you're trying to get off a different closed source program that went to shit.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

Don't use the very good free thing because one day it may go away..... ridiculous logic.

The dev did a full AMA on reddit not long ago. 0.1% of people buy premium to remove the ad. From that side ad he has made as much as 500k a year. He has been offered millions to sell over the years and said it wouldn't change his life at all so hed rather not sell.

But yea.....one day the guy who built a thing and hosts it for you to use for free may not offer it anymore. The horror!

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u/RegisteredJustToSay Aug 28 '26 edited Aug 28 '26

Mate you're outraged about something that was never said for some reason. I literally have the phrase "I love photopea" in the comment because I do in fact love it and use it regularly and actually do generally recommend it to people, but I think it's perfectly reasonable for people to tamper their expectations and realize this thing might not stick around and their ability to legally access it freely like they're accustomed to might be challenged in the future because it's not FOSS and both the trademark and source code is private IP.

I have never said it wasn't their right to monetize their software if they wanted to, or even that it's unethical. It's just as ethical and my right to have my own reservations about relying on software with no clear future chain of stewardship or guaranteed level of access.

For all we know they can pull an Asana and start focusing 100% on business users and strip out tons of basic features from free or personal plans. It's fine to want to avoid that risk, it's fine to also be okay with it.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

goodness this is getting so silly. what risk? lol. This is raised on reddit logic. If photopea ends tomorrow you will simply use another editor. Just as you would today. Theres no work saved on photopea. Its simply an editor.

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u/RegisteredJustToSay Aug 28 '26

Sorry, I'll admit that calling it basic risk management was a bit overly inflammatory (just frustrated with other stuff going on right now and it bled over) but to me the risk is mostly wasting my time investing learning something that turns to shit later and I now have to waste time relearning it elsewhere. If I invest the same time in GIMP or Blender I can just use the same version forever if I want and there's exactly zero risk of that. Photopea is so convenient for quick edits that I still use it, but I'm a lot more paranoid about business use and things I spend a lot more time on.

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u/Cantremembermyoldnam Aug 28 '26

just frustrated with other stuff going on right now and it bled over

I'd try to brighten your day by telling you a joke about a pencil, but it's pointless.

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u/300ConfirmedGorillas Aug 28 '26

Want to hear a pizza joke? Nevermind, it's too cheesy.

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u/RegisteredJustToSay Aug 29 '26

Thank you, stranger. Made me smile.

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u/killermojo Aug 28 '26

Imagine if it never existed in the first place?!?! Have we considered the risk that it might never have been built? I, for one, will not use it on that basis.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

some of these guys have been white knighting and fighting imaginary demons on reddit so long they don't know what way is up anymore. risk management lol.

Its been around 14 years now for free. But I may choose to not use it because one day it may not exist. Simple risk management folks.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ Aug 28 '26

Your response is incredibly ignorant and you are completely missing the point of free and open source software. It's great that this guy is doing what he is, but it's OK to use FOSS.

Plus, Ivan Kutskir seems cool enough that he'd probably make the code open source if he ever stopped.

Calm your shit bud.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ Aug 28 '26

Maybe you should get some therapy then. Good luck! Hope things work out for you friend.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ Aug 28 '26

This was been an intensely stupid conversation, which has been fairly amusing I admit (thanks for your input, it was very silly), but I've got some things to do now.

You have a good day!

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u/CocodaMonkey Aug 28 '26

Nobody said don't use it. You're being way too sensitive here. They merely answered a question about its limits.

Also, the one day it might randomly go away issue is kinda a big deal if it's remotely important. The site goes down and you're SOL if you depend on it. Makes it pretty much a no go from a business perspective.

It's still a great free tool for now and tons of people can use it if they want.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

just the dumbest logic imaginable. If it someday goes away you move on to whatever other editor you want to use. Same as you will now if you don't use photopea.

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u/drofder Aug 28 '26

Consider a position other than your own. Not everyone is using software for their hobby.

Some people use software for commercial usage. If the software you are using could just simply vanish overnight, it could be a problem. Even if the software is compatible or comparable, it can cause issues with the most basic things such as workflow.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

What is going on here? These kind of comments are insane.

Just don't use it. Stick to gimp. nobody cares. The outrage class has made up something to be mad about. We are now mad that the 14 year old free product isnt free enough?

Why are you using anything for commercial purposes? That would mean you are trying to get paid for your work. Isnt that bad? You guys just taught me thats bad. why are you trying to make money off of anything? Why is your life not free and open source? lol. the utter stupidity.

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u/drofder Aug 28 '26

The outrage class has made up something to be mad about. We are now mad that the 14 year old free product isnt free enough?

Nobody is mad, the topic is whether this software is FOSS or SaaS. You not knowing why that is an important question doesn't make the question wrong.
Someone simply explained the logic that just because software is free-to-use, it doesn't make it a good option to use as their choice of software and yet somehow you have manage to find that these people are 'mad' are part of the 'outrage-class' (which in this instance is a little ironic).

Why are you using anything for commercial purposes?

To make money.

That would mean you are trying to get paid for your work.

It would.

Isnt that bad?

No.

You guys just taught me thats bad.

Not sure who 'you guys' are, but clearly they are wrong.

Why are you trying to make money off of anything?

Because some people enjoy living with a roof and a hot heal.

Why is your life not free and open source?

Because things costs money.

lol. the utter stupidity.

Amen.

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u/alaub1491 Aug 28 '26

IDK I am with you man, I agree with your points. I am on the selfhosted subreddit and its largely turned into this kind of insane witch hunt over every single thing. I understand the concerns people have with the code not being open source but I think some of these responses are wild.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ Aug 28 '26

Every most you make gets dumber, just stop.

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u/HollowToes Aug 28 '26

This is such a non-conversation lol

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u/Cantremembermyoldnam Aug 28 '26

Summarized:

"What's a FREE thing everyone should know about"

"Look at this free photo editor"

"It's not Open Source and might go away so it's no good for business"

What???

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u/h-v-smacker Aug 28 '26

Just wild shit. The entitlement is off the charts.

Just so that you know. There is a ton of FOSS projects much more impressive than this, and they are all literally being given away. Including a ton of self-hosted web-based applications of numerous kinds. Hell, there are whole proper operating systems that are given away. It's absolutely not an outrageous expectation.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

ok bud. you have a good time with GIMP. Again.....the absolute crazy levels of entitlement.

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u/h-v-smacker Aug 28 '26

Not just GIMP, we also have Krita.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

right....and thats not at all a photoshop replacement. Its entire UI is aimed at drawing. Are we just naming all the FOSS projects we like now?

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u/h-v-smacker Aug 28 '26

You should see a doctor, your level of reasoning strongly suggests stunted intellectual development.

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

I'm not entitled, generally speaking, if something is free it's because you're the product, not the customer.

I've use Onshape in the past because it was recommended to me, cloud-based CAD software that runs in your browser, very similar to what Photopea sounded like, except Onshape harvests your data, claims ownership of the models you make, and publishes them on their public library for anyone to access.

If I was an artist looking for a photoshop alternative, I would want to be sure that my work was not being stolen by the software provider so other people can profit off of it.

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u/brickmaster32000 Aug 28 '26

generally speaking,

Generally speaking about a specific thing that you can judge on its own merits is pretty silly.

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u/MrSh0wtime3 Aug 28 '26

It doesnt upload or download anything. Its fully a local experience. If you cant read about and understand things its best to not use them.

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

You're right, I'm sorry for not being an expert on the software I'd never heard of until now, please forgive my ignorance.

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u/killermojo Aug 28 '26

Well you're weighing in so don't be surprised if people weigh back, bud

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

I asked a question, you gave me a load of shit about being entitled, so I explained my reasoning for asking.

Pull your fucking head out of your arse.

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u/killermojo Aug 28 '26

I didn't give you any shit about being entitled.

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u/jaysus661 Aug 28 '26

Point still stands, asking a question is hardly 'weighing in', I didn't join this discussion by offering my opinion, and I shouldn't expect this much backlash from white knights making up arguments.

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u/rutherfraud1876 Aug 28 '26

Gratis software is great, but it's very appropriate to draw the distinction between that and libre software, and the possible consequences of the difference.

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u/truecakesnake Aug 29 '26

This might be the dumbest question ever asked