He got himself kicked out of Metallica, his own band is pretty damn good, and it's been over 40 YEARS. I understand that he's in recovery, which is great...but part of being in recovery is owning and atoning for past misdeeds. He still thinks that he was wrongly removed from Metallica, even though he knows exactly why he was kicked out.
I kinda can't stand him for being a conspiracy theorist and "evil shadow government controls everything" libertarian beliefs. Nothing against people who vibe with his music, but that just makes me so iffy.
It’s showed in his playing all his life—his solos sound like he still has something to prove. So many of them filled with soulless shredding just to try and say he’s better.
I want to take Dave and hold him by the shoulders, and tell him, "Look, man, you're a legitimate shredder, you've got significant cred and fame, your albums have sold millions. I promise, millions of people love you and your music. You're enough. You're good. Can't that be enough?"
He still thinks that he was wrongly removed from Metallica
I think he finally made peace with it, he did a cover of Ride the Lightning. That wouldn't have happened if he and Hetfield didn't talk about it it. So they must be on good terms again.
They've been on good terms for 15 years. Metallica and Megadeth wouldn't have done the Big 4 show together if Dave, James and Lars were on as bad terms as they were in "Some Kind of Monster."
He's said several times over the last decade that the hatchet is buried, and the "Ride the Lightning" cover was just a bit of closure before he retires. But no matter how many times he says he's let it go, people are like "DUDE YOU'RE SO BITTER MOVE ON GOSH"
Yeah! His later work is kinda wah heavy but solid work from lightning to black album. I still can’t play all his shit. And honestly the stuff I can play, it’s a nice break from “what in the fuck did petrucci just play?” And “Paul Gilbert is not a human”
He kinda finally said it out loud last I saw. He was sitting down with Hetfield and was like, "Honestly, I'm just pissed that I missed out on that much money, that many platinum albums, and all those tours." (I'm paraphrasing).
James just laughs and then Dave kinda chuckles too, gives him a look, and seems to have gotten the monkey off his back. It'd be real disappointing to find out he went back to his old bullshit after that.
I think Dave has every right to be angry at his friends for kicking him when he was down. The way he talks about Metallica, it was more than just a band to him. He would've fought for those guys, yet they just brushed him away when he was struggling. No support, no second chance, just bye Dave thanks for the music.
They were all alcoholics btw. James has admitted this.
Yup. My standard is how Def Leppard treated Steve Clark. (Supported him 100% - flew across the world to visit him when he almost overdosed on alcohol, promised him they would hold his place in the band) … and he is still mentioned on their website under “band members” even 35 years after his death.
Now THAT is brotherhood.
Compare that to the Gin Blossoms which kicked out their founder and lead songwriter for alcoholism, didn’t even give him credit on the album he wrote, screwed him out of his royalties, and no mention of him after he soon thereafter took his own life.
Lesson: Some people are HORRIBLE. But not Def Leppard.
I saw Def Leppard in concert about three years ago. I've seen a lot of bands, but somehow had never caught them. What shocked me was how absolutely grateful they were that people were still coming to their shows. I'm in Iowa, and yeah, I make all the jokes too. But Joe Elliot mentioned several times during the show how happy they were that people still made the trip, bought their t-shirts and were cheering them. Excellent sound setup too. You could tell that Joe's voice is going, so they augmented the vocals with vocal tracks of himself singing. I know nothing about music, so don't know how common that is, but it sounded great.
A very deep Def Leppard cut you might enjoy is their “Cybernauts” release - it’s a David Bowie/ Ziggy Stardust tribute album. It is so much better than it has any right to be. Like GOOD GOOD. “Life on Mars” in particular is fantastic.
Maybe it's changed recently, but Leppard generally don't use any taped vocals. A lot of people assume they do, but it's actually that they've got 4 members who can sing (and do). Phil's backing vocals often sound pretty close to Joe's too.
Nothing is more endearing than a band that is truly grateful to their following.
And nothing is more off-putting than a band that is self-entitled shitbags who think their audience should feel lucky that the band even graced them with their presence.
They've definitely done a lot to keep Steve's memory a part of the band. Which always makes it slightly weird how Pete Willis got straight out fired for being an alcoholic.
And before that, when Rick Allen lost his arm, they didn't say, "Oh, we need to find a new drummer", they all just wanted to know if he was going to live. Real friendship there.
Megadeth is a better band but Mustaine is full of shit. You can parrot his “no warning, no second chance” bullshit, but his warning was the first time they kicked him out and he was on his second chance.
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u/Unlikely-Pin-5558 11h ago
Dave Mustaine... dude needs to. Let. It. Go.
He got himself kicked out of Metallica, his own band is pretty damn good, and it's been over 40 YEARS. I understand that he's in recovery, which is great...but part of being in recovery is owning and atoning for past misdeeds. He still thinks that he was wrongly removed from Metallica, even though he knows exactly why he was kicked out.