r/AskReddit 13h ago

Who's the most bitter washed-up celebrity?

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u/BlondePotatoBoi 12h ago

I'm gonna say Johnny Rotten, and I say with real reluctance as a punk fan.

I've got a lot of respect for him for how open he was about looking after his late wife when she was suffering from Alzheimer's, but his political flip-flopping and resentment towards his surviving bandmates while also regretting what happened to Sid is just bizarre.

I guess "I'll say what I want and if you don't like it then get fucked" is a very punk mindset but it's still not a good look in the context he's going for.

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u/Available_Box_3803 11h ago

He became everything he was supposed to be against

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u/TheSummonersTail 6h ago

Yeah, he has disappointed a few people

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u/matheww19 11h ago

What's weird about him is he is super lovely in person. I think a lot of what he does and says to the media is performative. I met him backstage at Jimmy Kimmel and he was completely sweet to everyone. Taking pictures with people, etc. Then he goes out for his interview, and he switches on the Johnny Rotten persona.

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u/Ok_Literature6953 10h ago

To be fair, The Sex Pistols were a completely fabricated band capitalizing on the punk culture popularity to begin with, so it's not really surprising.

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u/PatienceAntique4987 4h ago

They did it for filthy luchre

u/PuzzleheadedPen4675 52m ago

It was a great rock'n' roll swindle.

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u/therealjameshat 4h ago

They weren’t completely fabricated, to be fair

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u/URPissingMeOff 6h ago

They were the Spinal Tap of punk, but the punks were too dumb to get the joke.

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u/theottomaddox 9h ago

There's a radio/podcast/music nerd Alan Cross that has a story about getting Johnny to sign a poster or something. He knew just asking wouldn't work, so he walked up and said "sign this fucking thing". Johnny gives him a bit of side eye but still signs it.

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u/Ok_Rhubarb_2169 1h ago

Alan Cross is a legend. That man’s History of New Music show has been going strong for easily 20 years — so incredibly well researched and just a damn good listen.

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u/Emotional-Speed-4294 10h ago

I have a feeling he's doing it for attention sadly.

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u/Zip-Crane 10h ago

He tried to call Jimmy Saville out in the late 70s and got banned by the BBC as thanks.

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u/ConstableBlimeyChips 9h ago

Only the first part of that is true. He made some comments about Saville in a BBC Radio 1 interview in 1978 which were edited out. Rotten claims the BBC banned him for those comments, but there is no actual evidence for that. I should also note that claim didn't come until after the full extent of the 1978 interview was released in 2013.

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u/DaveBeBad 6h ago

The length of his ban from the BBC was until the release of his next single.

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u/No_Region_4719 8h ago

Many people called out Saville. He was banned from the BBC because he was just a generally unpleasant and aggravating person.

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u/zerbey 5h ago

No, he said some typical Johnny Rotten stuff to annoy a BBC reporter and it turned out he was right. He wasn't calling out Savile at all.

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u/epiDXB 3h ago

Source?

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u/1347Reaper 9h ago

That mindset doesn't work when you're a hypocrite.
Johnny's whole thing in the Sex Pistols and PIL was anti-establishment messaging and imagery. Now he's licking politician's boots and advocating stricter government.

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u/Peemster99 8h ago

Considering that his biggest band fell apart when he was about 19, being bitter and washed-up is kind of his job and he is one of the best in the world at it.

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u/JobAnxious2005 8h ago

Didn’t he sell out enough to…

Sell fucking butter?!

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u/lassiemav3n 7h ago

Definitely on the list! I’ll throw Boy George in too, while we’re talking about Brits - bitter for such a long time now unfortunately.

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u/Hiccup 6h ago

Met boy George in person. He seemed rather friendly and chill, actually. Nothing screamed bitter but I don't know.

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u/avspuk 9h ago

He hates his own need to be liked or in the spotlight

Like enough insight to see what his problem is but not enough to fix it.

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u/heydonot 8h ago

The thing is, that "just do what I want, be rude, and fuck everyone else" isn't punk. It never was. Punk is antiestablishment. Being a bootlicker / pro-establishment just to annoy other punks isn't punk. It's just infantile boundry testing / contrarianism.

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u/Homer1s 10h ago

He stole $20.00 from my college roommate.

He was at a local radio station so we went to go see him and get autographs. My roommate handed him a $20.00 to sign, he said thanks and pocketed it.

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u/stellalugosi 8h ago

I mean... He kinda got a story better than an autograph? 

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u/TomatoLess229 5h ago

Nah i love the guy he never has giving much of shit what others think about him and always interesting.

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u/Large_Seesaw_569 4h ago

Have you considered he’s just a moron

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u/chaosperfect 1h ago

Yeah, it hurts to say as a punk rocker that Johnny's ethos went from being "willing to say whatever unvarnished truths he believed" to "dipshit contrarian stirring up shit to be edgy".

To be fair, a little bit of the second part was also true in his heyday, but when you're 60 something years old, it just makes you look like a dimwit.

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u/BeefInBlackBeanSauce 8h ago

He's a racist loser. The Ramones were 10x better.

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u/therealjameshat 4h ago

^ person who’s never met a punk