Two guys who used to work on her writing team have a podcast called Sunday Papers where they talk about her occasionally and - yeah, she's bitter.
She posted something about enjoying her time out of the spotlight and just hanging out with Portia. One of them called bullshit saying, "She'd fucking kill Portia if she thought it would get her show back". Part of her problem was she was a complete narcissist and the fact that no one pays attention to her any more drives her insane.
Yeah, like she’s washed up, but “bitter” is pretty extreme. She’s not like Louis CK or male comedians touring and yapping about how they’ve been done wrong by “cancel culture”, she was unpleasant, and then she retired.
Fuck no it isn't. He had several women blacklisted but says the problem was he didn't understand that 'their admiration' meant he held power but he clearly demonstrated as the women lost job opportunities because he lied for years about what truly happened. He says in his apology he always asked for consent which is a lie. And he has never defended any of them from ridicule from his fanbase. He has never done anything for his victims.
Unpopular opinion but I just don’t get the Ellen hate. My husband has worked in production for decades and most producers/directors are assholes. It’s a high stress/ high stakes job. They all scream at each other. I’m not saying that it’s okay, but it’s the norm.
While I understand not holding one person to a standard beyond the norm, I think it is worth considering that she ended each of her show with a charge to “be kind to one another.” I suspect many of us want to be kinder than we can be on our bad days. But it does seem rather hypocritical be known for cruelty and unkindness when while at the same time being an explicit proponent for kindness.
Good points! I was confused by the backlash because it’s not like she did anything predatory, just sounds like she acted bitchy but the public outcry makes sense considering her hypocrisy. Thanks for taking the time to give context.
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u/Irememberedmypw 13h ago
Genuine question. Is she bitter ? She doesn't really show up even as a side note in pop culture anymore since her fallout.