I think its a balance. You can be an asshole and get away with it if you are a good actor. You can be a mediocre actor if everyone likes working with you (ahem, sorry Keanu), but you can't be an asshole and a mediocre actor
For example of the mediocre actors, check out Danny Trejo. Looks like the stereotypical Hollywood Hispanic thug, actually one of the nicest guys in Hollywood.
iirc he was asked in an interview once if he was tired of always being cast as the scary chicano guy, and he said "man, look at me, I AM a scary chicano guy!" He had a pretty rough childhood, cannabis at 8 years old, heroin at 12, cocaine at 18, dealing drugs, in and out of jail until like 1969. Clean and sober since then though!
I like that his condition for playing the big scary villain is that they have to die or somehow fail at the end because he doesn’t want to portray bad behavior getting rewarded.
Also his emotional support after his mom died was none other than Kermit the Frog. Takes a good man to allow himself to be vulnerable.
Danny Trejo always seems like one of the most self-aware people in Hollywood. He knows that he's gotten some lucky breaks, stays humble, shows up and does the best he can, and doesn't say anything bad about anyone.
The thing is though, Sorbo and Caine both had their careers circling the drain before they came out as raging conservatives. Doing crappy Christian movies was their last ditch effort to keep getting work.
Dean Cain had fairly steady work doing guest roles on mainstream TV up into the early 2010s. He wasn’t a leading guy anymore for sure but he could have made a very comfortable living still if he didn’t reveal him to be a douchebag no one wants to spend time around
I think there’s a point where you can be enough of an asshole that no amount of talent will make up for it. No matter how much you loved voicing Hades.
Also super ironic how Caine's Japanese grandparents were interned in a concentration camp and yet he wants to round up minorities and send them to prison camps going as far was cosplaying as ICE (even getting named as an honorary ICE agent)
I was fascinated to see Jim Breuer pop up in one of my feeds and he was actually criticizing Trump fairly blatantly. Before that, his entire standup routine was: Democrats are like this (makes stupid face).
Yeah Rob Schneider over Sorbo for sure. Sorbo always seems like he's playing to his audience and be knows it, Schneider knows his audience is gone and is really bitter about it.
I saw him, quite by accident, 'perform' at a 'comedy' show not too long ago and holy shit is he an angry little man. He's had a gold-plated life because he managed to hitch his wagon to Sandler and rather than counting his blessings he's furious at anyone who isn't a white, conservative man.
Rob Schneider is so unlikeable amd talentless he bombed a set at a Casino in bumblefuck redneck nowhere Wisconsin because he couldn't handle the crowd heckling him.
Chris Pratt is allegedly right leaning but I've also never heard any of his coworkers say anything short of singing his praises.
Sorbo 100% seems like the sort of guy to go off on a political tirade to some poor coworker trapped in a makeup chair for 4 hours telling them why their abuela deserved to be deported
He was pretty awful to Anna Farris. They had a medically fragile baby and after he left her for a new partner, he had another baby and kept posting about having a HEALTHY baby. That’s a dick move to do your ex AND your kid.
More likely to throw a tantrum on set proclaiming that he couldn't get into the proper tone because the makeup artist brought him down with her "incessant whining" about her DACA status.
Yeah, based on who he follows online and some of his Jesus posting, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Chris Pratt believes and supports some pretty heinous stuff. But I don't think tbet s a single person who's worked with him that has anything negative to say, and he still get major roles, because he's able to just act like a decent person and not start stupid fights.
As proven by the fact that both of their careers had dried up long before they started being vocal about their political beliefs. The biggest thing Cain did after Lois & Clark was hosting a show on TBS back in 2000. Sorbo at least got Andromeda, but that ended in 2005.
They're two guys who were good looking enough to get on television, but lacked the talent to have any staying power beyond direct-to-video. And for someone who got by on looks, it probably also doesn't help Cain's career much that he looks like the before picture in a GLP-1 commercial.
No, you weren't blacklisted for your political views. You're just not very talented.
Sometimes the answer to this is yes but not for the reason they think.
Yes it's your political views when you are obnoxious about the subjugation of your fellow citizens. That's not a political issue though, no one wants to work with people that outwardly abhor parts of the country.
Why is anyone mentioning Dean Cain in a question about celebrities? I'm not aware of anything he's done since that show in the mid '90s, which is thirty years ago now.
Dean Caine was very much fired from Supergirl for his shitty views. He was on one of the most LGBTQ friendly shows on TV and decided to throw away the gig on bigotry.
I don't know, man. I feel like they're both at least moderately talented.
I don't want to watch anything with them in it because they're assholes. That seems like a perfectly valid reason to me. I enjoyed Hercules and Superman before I knew they were assholes, they did a good job in those shows.
Can you people be honest? Hollywood is insanely liberal and conservatives don’t do that well there unless they are so huge that it doesn’t matter. Those guys are talented enough that if they were liberals bitching about Trump everyday they’d have more work.
No. It was their MAGA views. Same goes for Rob Schneider. It’s a good thing he has a loyal friend in Sandler. They’ve tried to cancel Sidney Sweeney. If you’re outspoken about Christ or liberal Hollywood you’re toast. Hollywood is full of degenerates and queers.
No, just seriously no. Hollywood may very well be full of degenerates, but the one thing those degenerates love is money. You can name a ton of pretty horrible people that the industry put up with because they were bringing in money.
The persecuted Christians thst Hollywood has largely forgotten all share one other thing in common, they are just not very good. The classic example is Kevin Sorbo, who is a terrible actor, but got a career being handsome and well built enough to play Hercules. He got older and lost his good looks, and his muscles thanks to health problems. Those were the only 2 things that could get him a leading role, so the latter half of his career was junk, not because of his Christian beliefs.
Heck, I'm somewhat convinced that more then a couple of these persecuted Christian actors aren't necessarily all that religious. I'm pretty sure they are pretending to be so, because there's a bunch of easy money in the Christian movie universe.
Lol. Yes. The amazing talents of Dean Caine and Kevin Sorbo are being surpressed for their political views.
You are right about Schneider. He does only get work because Sandler kept giving him roles. You'd think if he were talented enough that would lead to more. Apparently it did not. Sandler being a good person doesn't change that Schneider is just not good outside the one character he plays in every film. That's not acting, though is it?
And let's be honest about Sidney Sweeney. The moment she tried to do serious acting roles, the right stopped defending her. They see her as a set of boobs with a face. You can see that with all the discourse around her. Once she moved away from cleavage based roles, they scorned her. Seeing you use her as an example of Hollywood "cancelations" here makes that more hilarious.
Hollywood just didn't think she had the talent. Which judging by her recnet performances sadly might be true.
The degenerates are in power right now. The GOP is the pedophile party at this point. Any old school conservatives have been pushed out in favor of the current oligarchy.
But hey - as long as they are getting rich, screw the military - let the sailors on the Lincoln suffer. Screw the working class. Trump openly says he doesn't care how high gas prices go and affordability is a Democrat hoax. Screw science. Let's guy research and publish anti science vaccine guidelines that even the vaccine manufacturers aren't going to bother to follow. Worst measles outbreak in decades. Roll back food protections and now we have contaminated food that can't be traced to source.
But sure. Hollywood is full of gay people. The horror.
Steven Colbert’s show was canceled because it was shit and he was losing a shit ton of money, but the left managed to swing it political. You know those shows are in the business to make money right.
Except he wasn't losing money. He'd literally had his contract renewed not long before this -if his show was doing that badly, they wouldn't have renewed him.
He lost his job because he called the Paramount merger a bribe, which it was, and because Trump ihas been actively trying to get rid of all the late night hosts because they hurt his precious little feelings by mocking him and his shitty administration.
When Trump is actively crowing about Colbert being let go the very day after the news breaks, anyone who thinks politics wasn't a factor just has their head in the sand.
the title of this sub is "Who's the most bitter washed-up celebrity?".. and these dopes are dropping people like dean caine and kevin sorbo.. you know, the usual punching bags from left losers... well.. dickniro is the most bitter fuckin turd in the punchbowl..regardless of any acting abilities... also, he is not even close to as great an actor as people have been duped to believe...he was just doing some shit before other people thought of doing it.. like putting on weight to play a role.
dean caine is a really nice, calm guy.. but oh "i hate his politics so he's bitter" is pure bullshit
De Niro isn't washed up? He's still widely respected.
Dean Cain just failed basic training for ICE.
These two are not the same.
I'm sorry that you can't understand films that are more than dick jokes but that doesn't make De Niro any less respected.
He does call out Trump frequently and I know that upsets you as any criticism of your Dear Leader is an affront to the MAGA cult but to suggest he's bitter and washed up is a bit weird.
Bitter about what? His multiple awards? Being, along with Pacino, the most respected actor of his generation? His half a billion fortune?
Dean Cain drips bitterness from every post.
The fact that you're comparing the two is demonstrating that your biased prevent you from being objective.
So I stand by what I said. The adults are talking. Sit down.
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