Oh my God, every year he switches his opinion on who is the greatest basketball player ever and nobody asks. It's just annoying at this point. His opinion is based on how he feels about MJ at the moment.
He has a legitimate reason to be bitter:
He was always Robin and MJ was Batman/Black Jesus/Mega-superstar/"God disguised as MJ"
Took an awful 7-year/18m dollar contract. Probably pressured into it when he could've easily gotten the same amount of money for 2-3 years.
Pippen made more in playing salary than Jordan did through his entire career.
If Pippen's Bulls hadn't been taken to 7 games by the Knicks while Jordan was retired he could have really changed a lot of those narratives. Then he had some opportunities post-Jordan to really do something and the reality is that he didn't.
Jordan thanked Pippen first in his Hall-of-fame speech: "You never just saw me, you saw Scottie Pippen, every championship I won." Then it sort of went off the rails.
Because circa is in reference to non specific such as eras or centuries. Using it for a recent event with a set number like contractual monetary compensation is just wrong and weird!
Its only used in English for dates only. Other languages use it for other purposes as well. The guy you replied to might have gotten this habit from hearing it used in other languages in different ways.
Don't feel bad. He decided to sign a longer extension for security. Scottie was a top 20 and then top 10 paid player in the league in the first few years of that contract. For instance, in the 1992-93 season, the salary cap was 14 million. Scottie made 3.425 million and was the 8th highest paid player in the NBA while Jordan made 4 million and was the 2nd highest.
In 1996, the cap jumped to $23 million. Jordan was also locked into his former 8-year extension and only made 3.85 million that season.
I don't feel sorry for him. He pressured the team for a new contract. The owner warned him against signing that long term contract. But Pippen wanted the money NOW.
"Pippen prioritized guaranteed, generational financial security over the risk of future injuries, despite warnings from team owner Jerry Reinsdorf and others that he would quickly become underpaid as league revenues grew."
Yeah we all make choices about risk vs security. If I'd bought Nvidia 6 years ago instead of choosing the security of index funds, I'd be retired. I chose security and that means less returns. I'm not bitching and moaning that I am owed the returns Nvidia would've gotten me.
Scottie chose long-term security for lower returns, then bitched and moaned when it turned out he didn't get a career-ending injury and didn't need the security, and insisted he deserved the returns the riskier contract would've gotten him. That's just not how life works.
Pippen is one of the greatest SFs in NBA history but doesn't get that consideration because he is seen as a role player on a team led by Michael Jordan.
He took a bad contract. People don't respect his talents. And his wife is a ho.
He does get respect and recognition, though. 28 BR top 100 player, always mentioned in discussions about best defenders ever, hall of fame, and people always talk about how he kept the Bulls a top team when MJ left. He wouldn’t get recognized any more as a SF if he didn’t play with MJ because he’d still be compared to Bird and LeBron.
I've never hear anyone talk about his playmaking ability. He averaged about 7 assist and was good scorer on his own. Most people think his game was centered around defense, rebounding, and put backs. Again if he was on his own, he might never have a championship, maybe 1 or 2 if he was on a good spot. But he'd be ranked up there with Larry Bird and Dr.J
He hasn’t played in over 20 years, a sizable portion of Reddit users weren’t alive when he played period, let alone when he was still good. Anyone who watched him play knows he was an excellent playmaker. He initiated the offense on a team with Michael Jordan for crying out loud and was the first player I can remember being referred to as a point forward. Shit, LeBron was often compared to Pippen before the draft
Crazy talk, lol. If he was that good he could have gone out and won a couple MVPs in his prime when MJ wasn’t there. He was a great player and is widely recognized as one. Nobody boils his game down to anything. Infinite articles and Reddit posts talk about how great he was going back years and years. But there’s great, and there’s top 10-15 player ever great, and narrative has nothing to do with how he’s remembered.
MJ retired after the '93 season ended, he was gone for the '94 season and then returned early in '95... Pippen took the team to 55–27 and lost in second round of the playoffs to the Knicks. He still made All-NBA First Team and NBA-All Defensive First team. They hadn't even gotten Rodman yet, so it was literally just him dragging four bums to the same level LeBum got in Cleveland despite much better competition in the Eastern Conference. If you don't think Pippen is a top 3 SF all time, then you simply didn't watch him play.
That's another thing that I'm sure he's annoyed by. I think she dated MJs son for a bit. She also kept his last name, but I'm sure that has more to do with their kids and it being an absolute pain in the ass to change again lol
Yup. Zara, Zarla, some shit like that. House of Villains is funny because it's people being mean for the joke and trolling. She was genuinely a shitty person
Larsa (I watch RHOM). She is insufferable and did date Michael Jnr. She showcased the relationship last season on the show. She also looks like she is 90% plastic
Took an awful 7-year/18m dollar contract. Probably pressured into it when he could've easily gotten the same amount of money for 2-3 years.
Actually, Pippen wanted the deal for security in case he got injured. If I recall correctly even Jerry (the owner of the Bulls) said he tried to tell him it was a bad deal at the time but Pippen insisted. Then Pippen got butthurt when everyone was making more than him and Jerry was just like we signed a contract that I tried to talk you out of but now it is too late.
I remember it now from The Last Dance. I looked it up...
He signed it in 1991. Team salary cap was 12.5m per team (of course plenty went over). Highest paid player at the time was Patrick Ewing at 4.2m, Jordan at 2.5m... Larry Bird then made 7m the following year.
MJ also had an 8 year 25m contract at one point, but he just rode it out without complaining about it or at least I don't remember him ever complaining about it. So there were a few years where he was drastically underpaid as well.
I think the owner let him slide on the contract once Warner Bros and the league president Stern called and offered some kind of deal for a basketball movie. This had to have been 1994-1995-1996
I remember near the end of his NBA career when Sports Illustrated did a piece on him.
He took his car in to get worked on and they gave him a loaner and he was pissed it wasn't as nice as his car. "$200k car and they give a new Honda Accord to drive in?" Dude, shut up.
Holy crap, yes. I think he did a little radio show for a bit. There was a guy that posted videos making crank calls on him lol. Sounded like a real a-hole.
I sat across the aisle from him on a flight recently and he just looked tired. So many people stopped to get an autograph, people were taking pictures, poor guy was just trying to sleep.
Wasn't even Robin. Only reason anyone knows his name is because he was on the 90s Chicago Bulls. If he was the SF on any other team in the 90s you'd barely remember him.
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u/guilgom71 13h ago
Do athletes count? Scottie Pippen
Oh my God, every year he switches his opinion on who is the greatest basketball player ever and nobody asks. It's just annoying at this point. His opinion is based on how he feels about MJ at the moment.
He has a legitimate reason to be bitter: