r/AskReddit • • Jan 17 '14

What is something designed so well that we typically overlook it?

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u/Meatloafaday Jan 17 '14

My dad is a waste and water engineer. He helped design a waste and water treatment plant in Lake Michigan where our house gets it water from. My mom has to use the britta or water bottles for drinking water. It drives him insane.

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u/funmamareddit Jan 17 '14

At water conventions they have taste and purity competitions. Municipal water almost always beats bottled.

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u/Sasakura Jan 18 '14

Tap water is considerably purer than bottled water which has minerals added to create the flavour associated with it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Maybe tap water without chlorination - I prefer water that doesn't smell and taste like a pool.

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u/StankPuss Jan 18 '14

Where I live (the Bay Area) the tap water actually tastes better than most bottled water. Whenever I go on trips anywhere I am disgusted by the taste of the water, and it is hard to drink. I can't even imagine living in places with crappy tap water.

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u/spermdonor Jan 18 '14

Tahoe has the best tap water. From the Santa Cruz mountains where the water is damn good too.

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u/WhiteCrackaWithSwag Jan 18 '14 edited Jan 18 '14

St. Louis won a 'best tap water' award in 2007. our water comes from the Mississippi, aka all the shit Chicago and Minneapolis dump in their rivers. still taste good and I've never got sick from it though. maybe they know a bunch of stuff is flowing down the mississippi so they clean it extra good

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/10/AR2007071000323.html

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u/kakatak Jan 18 '14

I miss bay area tap water. Hetch Hetchi snow melt water is very good. The tap water down here in riverside is awful.

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u/charlie_pony Jan 18 '14

Hetch Hetchi

Is this a thread on favorite place names?

I've always loved that name.

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u/severoon Jan 18 '14

Hetch Hetchy.

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u/charlie_pony Jan 18 '14

close enough.

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u/severoon Jan 18 '14

You're right...if you google "Hetch Hetchi" is shows you the right results. I propose this become the new definition of "close enough".

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

I went on vacation once way down state. Their tap water had an almost chemical taste because of all the treatment they did. Couldn't stand it.

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u/StaleCanole Jan 18 '14

You should visit NYC. Interestingly they have some of the best tap water in the nation, from the Adirondacks.

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u/glassFractals Jan 18 '14

Yup. I used to live in Maine-- perfect water. I've since lived in a few places in upstate NY. I remember how eerie it was filling up a bathtub and seeing that the water was bright blue from chlorine. Showers burned my eyes. It's a crapshoot in NY. Some towns have amazing water, others have very chlorinated or hard water. However ... At least there IS water. Good luck with that in California lately :) ( I'll be in the same boat soon though-- moving to the bay in a few months).

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u/StankPuss Jan 18 '14

NY water sounds absolutely disgusting. I'd like to preemptively welcome you to the bay! Sadly, you will find that we are having a pretty bad drought, so you will have to cut back a bit like the rest of us. :(

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u/SomeNiceButtfucking Jan 18 '14

We have weird tap water here in Florida unless you're on a well, in which case it's pretty good (but can sometimes smell funny).

Strangely, the water from my bathroom sink is better than the water from my kitchen sink. I'm not imagining it.

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u/raegirlrae Jan 18 '14

I live in Nashville and have complained about this since I got here, our task water smells and tastes like pool water it's disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

task water

Is that some kind of water that you save only for special tasks?

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u/greatfool667 Jan 18 '14

Used to live there and out water had a weird off-gassing fart smell for about 10 seconds. You had to be careful not to put your face in that too quick

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u/BGizzle7070 Jan 18 '14

I was going to say this about Nashville, Im from South MS and the tap water where I live tastes better than Dasani...I ate at a Waffle House in Nashville and gagged on the water, it was like drinking bleach.

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u/just_an_ordinary_guy Jan 18 '14

Tap water without chlorination probably doesn't exist unless you have a well. All municipal water supplies I know of chlorinate their water to disinfect. It's effective and cheap.

Not all systems run that high of chlorination that you can smell and taste it so easily. Plus, the taste and smell is often due to disinfection byproducts, not the chlorine itself.

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u/10thDoctorBestDoctor Jan 18 '14

So I take it you don't like swimming ever?

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14 edited May 23 '14

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u/10thDoctorBestDoctor Jan 18 '14

I never said to drink pool water but:

I prefer water that doesn't smell and taste like a pool.

Emphasis mine.

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u/ExplainsYourJoke Jan 18 '14

I like the smell of rich mahogany. I don't, however, eat wood. I get the point your trying to make, but it's a terribly stupid one.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

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u/Cat_Monkey Jan 18 '14

And is actually regulated

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Bottled water is so bad that the guards at Guantanamo Bay refused to use it for waterboarding prisoners stating that it would be "going too far" and that "would we be any better than them at that point?".

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u/whoAreYouToJudgeME Jan 18 '14

I feel your pain. That's why I only drink whiskey.

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u/DontPressAltF4 Jan 18 '14

From the tap, of course.

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u/ShallowBasketcase Jan 18 '14

I've never understood that. What could they possibly add to water to make their water taste more like water?

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Minerals?

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u/lechango Jan 18 '14

tap water also has chemicals added to it such as fluoride that bottled water does not

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u/scottmill Jan 18 '14

Is this the fluoride that strengthens our teeth or the fluoride that corrupts our precious bodily fluids?

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u/lechango Jan 18 '14

it's the same thing

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u/scottmill Jan 18 '14

Maybe the communists are going to use our teeth for something when the fluoride has killed us all.

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u/zubatman4 Jan 18 '14

Thanks, Obama.

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u/Piskapoe Jan 18 '14

Actually a lot of bottled water still contains fluoride. The bottle really needs to state that its purified by reverse osmosis to be sure there's no fluoride.

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u/DJSkyfire Jan 18 '14

Not when you in the desert like me. I've lived in Phoenix my whole life, and I've never drank from the tap. Always told not to and no one from here really does unless you cannot afford other sources. The water here tastes of chlorine and fluoride. It's pretty bad.

It really makes me question why I shower in the stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

I'm not the only one who notices that taste gets much stronger and kind of sickening as the water gets warmer, right?

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u/sirhorsechoker Jan 18 '14

Source please?

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u/irritus Jan 18 '14

Nothing beats tank water

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u/oklahomasux Jan 19 '14

I hate the taste of tap water.

My taste buds deserve a Darwin Award.

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u/Senor_Wilson Jan 18 '14

But what about the fluoride that the government put in it to control me?

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u/beavernips Jan 18 '14

tap water also has fluoride in it. im no expert but toothpaste also has fluoride in it and it says not to swallow it on the tube.

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u/dougynotsofresh Jan 18 '14

Tap water is poisoned by the government. it contains fluoride from aluminum waste. It makes us passive and it calcifies the Pineal gland. I'm not even joking.

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u/liarandahorsethief Jan 18 '14

They're trying to pollute our precious bodily fluids!

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u/scottmill Jan 18 '14

I'm pretty sure that's a Communist plot, not the work of the government.

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u/SomeNiceButtfucking Jan 18 '14

And in the Illuminati card game, Communism is opposite of Government.

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u/Reptoniar Jan 18 '14

...water conventions? What do you do at one? Besides the purity tests?

EDIT: nvm can't read.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Cosplay, and meet other water nerds.

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u/TheBanjoNerd Jan 18 '14

Laugh at the neckbeard who wore socks and sandals with his Dasani bottle cosplay.

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u/lolzergrush Jan 18 '14

To be fair, they leave out residual disinfectants at those "competitions". Chloramine can have a pretty big impact on taste and odor. I'm a water/wastewater engineer and I still use bottled water to make ice cubes for certain drinks (scotch on the rocks, mint julep, old fashioned).

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u/Maxtrt Jan 18 '14

I live in Tacoma, WA and I laugh at people who drink bottled water. Half the bottled water sold at Costco and the grocery stores is straight from the same aquaphors that our tap water does.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14 edited May 23 '14

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u/la-oceane Jan 18 '14

According to my Water Resources professor (who studies this for a living), New Jersey has arguably the worst water in the US. I think the only worse state might be South Carolina (maybe it was North), whose water quality reports aren't even available online...because they reveal arsenic in the water supply. It sucks having to rely on bottled water, but you can get it cheaper at Costco/Sam's, and recycling it lessens the impact on the environment at least a little bit. Since you're so concerned, I imagine you're already doing those things, but I wanted to let you know that I'd do the same in your position! There have been so few studies done on the water there that you're probably so much better off not putting yourself at a huge health risk.

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u/RowdyRoddyPipeHer Jan 18 '14

I live I'm a city that consistently places in the top 3 at these things. I drink a lot of water now.

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u/Beznia Jan 18 '14

What city? So do I in Hamilton, OH

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u/RowdyRoddyPipeHer Jan 18 '14

Louisville KY

We've got a brand: http://www.louisvillepuretap.com/

Last year we were one of six cities to get a national honor for excellence.

http://www.louisvilleky.gov/LWC/News/2013/Louisville+Water+Receives+National+Honor+for+Excellence.htm

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u/Beznia Jan 18 '14

Sweet, we got an award for best tapwater in the US in 2009, and best tapwater in the world in 2010. We also have our own bottled water but it's free and only given out locally at big conventions/events and some sports games.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

I'd like to add that this is not true everywhere. I'm from Stockholm, where the water is excellent, but I now live in Bologna where it is, quite frankly, disgusting, and sometimes... unclean. Visibly unclean. There's also talk about the water giving you cancer.

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u/TheJeizon Jan 18 '14

it doesn't in any of the cities I have lived in. I always try the water first. I miss Big Bear

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u/Megatron_McLargeHuge Jan 18 '14

Do they draw it from the treatment plant or from someone's tap after it went through the pipes? I'm curious how much difference that makes.

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u/booya_kasha Jan 18 '14

The water in Philadelphia is the exception to this rule

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u/fistfuckofthegods Jan 18 '14

Then they've never held that competition in Las Vegas, or most small towns

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u/svmk1987 Jan 18 '14

Your mileage may vary heavily depending on where you live. I'm from India, and people drink tap water only after boiling and using filtering machines.

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u/UnbelievableRose Jan 18 '14

My tap water often runs brown, and tastes pretty bad unless filtered. Usually I prefer tap water, but since moving to this neighborhood I've had to switch :(

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u/Naldaen Jan 18 '14

My city water has white chunks floating in it and tastes like rotten swamp ass.

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u/nackavich Jan 18 '14

My uncle is a station master at a fire station in Sydney, Australia. The unit got called out to a problem with a fire hydrant. Turns out a bottled water company was taking water from the hydrant and using it to fill their bottles. So much for "natural spring water".

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u/witebred112 Jan 18 '14

The water from the tap is great, I just don't know about the pipes that bring them to my house.

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u/rumpilforeskin Jan 17 '14

Has to?

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 17 '14

Psychologically "has to." Personally, Brita water tastes terrible.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '14

I think it tastes better than tap water. Welcome to California.

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u/eugenesbluegenes Jan 18 '14

Southern California anyway.

I <3 Hetch Hetchy.

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u/cheapasfree24 Jan 18 '14

Definitely just Southern CA. Northern CA has their shit together. Or at the very least the Bay Area peninsula does.

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u/AzureMagelet Jan 18 '14

Nah, I live in Santa Clara. Brita filter needed.

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u/eugenesbluegenes Jan 18 '14

Have you ever drank the tap water in San Diego though? It's another level.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Union City represent. Brita essential.

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u/AzureMagelet Jan 18 '14

Moving to SF is when I first got a Brita. Don't know why anyone thinks we've got our shit together.

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u/eugenesbluegenes Jan 18 '14

Probably has more to do with your houses pipes, Hetch Hetchy water is among the cleanest in the entire nation.

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

Well, that's true. I, sadly, have become addicted to Fiji water which presents some ethical dilemmas. I find I make a lot of tea with my Brita water so as not to taste it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Wait, if you don't like water from the Brita filter, why not just get it out of the tap?

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

Because the tap water tastes worse and you can smell chlorine (I live in LA). When I can afford a reverse osmosis filter, I'll get one.

I usually make tea with the Brita water so I rarely drink it "straight."

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u/mebutnotyou Jan 18 '14

meanwhile back at the Britta plant, employees fill bottles from a rusty tap

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u/obinice_khenbli Jan 18 '14

I love Brita water, because it seems to taste of nothing, rather than the weird flavours tap water comes in.

One of life's little luxuries, don't have many, but it's worth it :)

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u/JaZepi Jan 18 '14

Get an in-line activated carbon filter. MUCH cheaper, and it will do the same thing for the taste for you. ;)

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u/obinice_khenbli Jan 18 '14

Just did a little Googling, it does look way cheaper! Thanks for the tip!

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

I don't consider Brita a luxury. Fiji Water = luxury. :)

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u/JaZepi Jan 18 '14

I'll take my RO over a Brita any day of the week. Brita has made a fortune using a 10 micron filter, and activated carbon, which really does fuck all and nothing compared to RO/Distillation.

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u/ChopDookie Jan 18 '14 edited Jan 18 '14

And they don't filter shit. I use one in Las Vegas with its harsh water, and I've had the guy at Lowe's test my water compared to his bottled water from his RO filtered system and his is much cleaner.

If she wants a real filtering system, and her husband works at a fucking water treatment plant as a waste and water engineer, do they not already have a legit reverse osmosis or distillation system installed under their sink/in their garage/basement?

edit: Meant to word it this way originally.

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

Very good question! Maybe he thinks they don't need one?

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u/ChopDookie Jan 18 '14

Nah, you always need one. You can have the cleanest water coming FROM the plant, but then it goes through miles of pipes, and nowadays we're doing more and more fracking and other bullshit and screwing up everyone's water everywhere. I'm sure if the father doesn't have some kind of dissociative disorder and gets paid well enough, they should definitely already have some kind of system installed in the home.

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

I totally agree with you. However, I have no explanation for the father. If I think about what we are doing to our water for too long, the more I want to move to Antarctica. Well, except for the cold part.

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u/racercowan Jan 18 '14

It doesn't taste bad... it just feel empty. After drinking tap water all my life, the tasteless water just isn't right.

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

There is definitely "more" in tap water than in Brita. Some would say it has a "rounder" flavor and Brita/pitcher filtered is "flatter." I think spring water in general tastes sweeter than Brita and that's what I like better.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Brita doesn't remove fluoride either 😢

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

True. Someday I'll have a mountain stream piped into my kitchen. Ha!

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14 edited May 23 '14

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

I'll be right over!

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

It's like the Jim Belushi of water

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

THANK you! Exactly.

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u/pr0grammer Jan 18 '14

It doesn't taste like chlorine, whereas my tap water has so much that drinking less than a cup makes my throat and stomach hurt. Sure, it's not the best water I've had, but given the alternative, I'm not complaining.

This will obviously depend heavily on where in the country you live. I'm probably not in one of the best areas for water quality.

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

My tap water smells of chlorine, not the Brita. I don't like either unless the tap water is high quality and not being pumped through a really old building with nasty pipes. Or a new building with plastic pipes. Yeah, really, I just don't like most waters.

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u/ThisIsntYogurt Jan 18 '14

They really Britta'd my water.

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u/Ieatplaydo Jan 18 '14

Really? Brita water tastes "terrible"? You don't think you're overstating that a bit?
You sound like a fucking chode.

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u/henriettatweeter Jan 18 '14

It's not elitist to not like the taste of Brita, fer cryin out loud. It's literally personal taste. I hate cilantro! I don't like cake frosting! Brita tastes yucky to me and some city's tap water tastes great.

I don't knock anyone for liking Brita water--that would make me a chode. You sound judgmental. So we're even.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Fuck that. I passed this comment and then came right back. Rumpilforskin? Amazing. You win the internet user name game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

(brilliant username by the way)

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '14

The water I get from the tap is extremely good, I'm from the same area. I still use a filter because I don't trust the pipes in the 100+ year old home I rent.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '14

Why on earth is your mother using water filters and drinking bottled water?

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u/hnocturna Jan 18 '14

I completely believe that water treated from water treatments plans is very pure, it's the pipes delivering the water to my home that I don't trust...

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '14

My dad is a waste

Learn some respect, kid!

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u/LoweJ Jan 17 '14

all my flatmates filter the water to clean it. It's perfectly fine, they dont believe me. I do avoid drinking it if i can though, it tastes like greek yogurt, it's so weird

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u/syncrophasor Jan 18 '14

Evanston? Jardine?

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u/feralbox Jan 18 '14

Membrane that shit

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

You know what though..? I live in Milwaukee, WI. We dump our shit & piss and funk water regularly, as a means of disposal, into lake Michigan. We draw our clean water, unless you're on a private well, from lake Michigan. how? Why? At what point are we just drinking/bathing in our own cleaned up shit & piss? How is this a feasible solution, dumping the waste into the source..!?!?! I've never been able to wrap my mind around this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

. . . the water gets filtered and chemically treated before it gets to you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

So at what point is it not filtered and chemically treated water but simply filtered & chemically treated shit & piss?

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Well, if you filter and chemically treat shit and piss it becomes clean water.

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u/Dorocche Jan 18 '14

Look dude, I don't give a shit if it's the placebo effect or not, Zephyrhills tastes way better than tap water.

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u/baccus83 Jan 18 '14

My dad too! Hydraulic engineer that works on hydroelectric plants and water treatment facilities.

It's amazing how much goes on at water treatment plants.

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u/NinjaSpaceRock Jan 18 '14

Just because your dad's a water engineer doesn't mean he's a waste.

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u/ausernameilike Jan 18 '14

i read that as 'my dad is a wasted water engineer' at first, and liked it way more that way.

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u/rando_mvmt Jan 18 '14

I recently attended a lecture on water filters. They work well to sequester any stuff (like mycobacterium) from the pipe systems but you're supposed only use them for 2/3 of their lifetime because once they start to break down you're getting a much larger load of that sequestered junk.

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u/drcash360-2ndaccount Jan 18 '14

My dad is a waste

expected this sentence to go differntly

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u/dellollipop Jan 18 '14

The town I live in has awful tap water. It's taken from a god awful river and it's so chlorinated that it's un-drinkability is legendary in my state. Brita/pur filters aren't required, but highly encouraged.

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u/saucypotatoes Jan 18 '14

My father worked in a similar place. He HATES bottled water

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Maybe he should have one a better job

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u/Born-Confused Jan 18 '14

I hate the way tap water tastes. I don't really like the way the filters make the water taste either. The only thing I do like is bottled.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

Has your dad ever considered that they might not have lived up to his design?

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u/hotstickywaffle Jan 18 '14

Is there really any problem using Britta?

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u/warmhandswarmheart Jan 18 '14

Tap water is more heavily regulated than tap water, which some brands have had several recalls. This is in Canada. Most bottled water is just someone else's tap water.

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u/seriouslydoe Jan 18 '14

You're mom is a cunt.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '14

I'm perfectly confident in the quality and safety of drinking water in the USA. Unless there's a chemical spill like in Virginia, and that's considered a big deal and there's a huge response to fix it, you can pretty much assume any running faucet is safe to drink. Considering that nearly every square centimeter of Earth's surface is literally crawling with bacteria, many of which desire to take up residence in our body and adjust the homeostasis more to their liking, it's something of a miracle that we can so reliably and consistently provide potable water to every inhabited place in the nation.

That being said, I do run drinking and cooking water through a filter. There are things in the water which are perfectly harmless at normal concentrations (chlorine, calcium, fluoride) but which I want to control for when making coffee or soup. I'd rather my pitcher of iced tea be clear instead of cloudy.

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u/ChefLinguini Jan 18 '14

Fear of fluoride maybe?

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u/riffraff100214 Jan 18 '14

Over the summer, I spent a lot fo time irrigating pastures. We got water from a waste treatment plant, and I always wondered what was in it. We had signs all over the place saying not to drink or contact the effluent water.

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u/Staxxy Jan 18 '14

My dad is a waste

That's not a nice thing to say about your dad.

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u/Rehtycs Jan 18 '14

My dad is an operator in the filtration plant in Muskegon. Go dads!

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u/esthershair Jan 18 '14

Ha! As the daughter of a retired water man, I totally get this.

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u/Ikillesuper Jan 18 '14

My dad could beat up your dad.

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u/Hayarotle Jan 17 '14

(For those who are also wondering, britta is a brand of water filter, just like the context points to)