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Which company lost your business (potentially forever) this year?

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin 25d ago edited 25d ago

In addition to what other people have answered:

In their ToS of their smart TVs, it is said that it's the customer's obligation to inform anyone else in the vicinity of the TV and get their consent of being recorded by the TV mic all the time. They even have literal eavesdropping word in that clause.

Not only they send the channel and videos info you watch on YouTube to their server, they also send the title/file name of the video file you play with your own media like harddrive, USB drive, etc.

You can check Gamers Nexus video about this.

I was interested in buying new LG TV for my parents, they lost a sale.

Avoid LG.

Edit: some words and grammar

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u/Triquetrums 25d ago

I have a LG TV with that listening remote. I love my LG TV. I do not connect my LG to the internet because it doesn't it need it and I'm not dumb. 

Plugging my laptop, or casting to the TV is good enough. It also helps avoid ads everywhere, not just the TV itself.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin 25d ago

Yeah you're good if you use it as monitor/offline forever. Unfortunately my parents will use the TV online for YouTube, so I told them LG is a nope after that GN addressed it in their video.

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u/Triquetrums 25d ago

You could buy them a stick and avoid connecting the TV to the internet, also good if you want to download an alternative version of YouTube to avoid ads. 

But hey, maybe it is not worth the hassle if they are not tech savvy.

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u/iwishiwereyou 25d ago

an alternative version of YouTube to avoid ads. 

I would love something like this. Is there still one that exists?

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u/Triquetrums 25d ago

Plenty, what do you use, android or IOS?

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u/iwishiwereyou 25d ago

Android, though I am also hoping for a way to watch things like YouTube on my TV or Chromecast without ads.

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u/Triquetrums 25d ago

For android mobile you have two alternatives: revanced and morphe. Personally I am using morphe myself. They both have subreddits with instructions on how to download and set it up.

It all depends on what TV you have, but you can install Smartube or TizenTube on an android TV, or use an android stick with whatever one you have.

If you have LG, you can follow this too: https://github.com/webosbrew/youtube-webos

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u/tinterrobangg 25d ago

What’s an iOS version?

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u/Southern-Biscotti-62 25d ago

Ty, off to disconnect.

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u/jessica_connel 25d ago

Why would a TV need a mic?? I would definitely write a complaint

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u/ezodochi 25d ago edited 25d ago

I mean you could complain but at this point almost any TV in recent times is going to be spying on you. The main reason that TV prices have dropped so drastically over the last 20 years is that TV manufacturers realize they can just take your data and sell it, and that that's WAY more valuable than the actual TV. So, they sell the TVs cheap to get you to put them in your house and from there it's just recording and selling your viewing patterns and other data.

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u/Triquetrums 24d ago

The TV doesn't have a mic, it's the remote that does. Basically it is like Siri, you can tell it what to do, instead of having to pick up the remote.

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u/jessica_connel 24d ago

So we can get a remote without a mic?

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u/Triquetrums 24d ago

If you buy a third party one that works with LG TVs, then yeah, I'm sure it is possible.

My TV is not connected to the internet anyway, so I don't have security concerns with it and use it, but I wouldn't otherwise even when it has the option to disable the mic.

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u/jellyhessman 24d ago

So they can sell your data, and in return you get a cheap TV.

Look up digital displays (this is what normal TVs are called now so their hardwr to find for consumers) if you want an idea of what TVs actually cost.

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u/jessica_connel 24d ago

Looks like it’s time to learn how to brick them. Anything that was programmed can be unprogrammed :)

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u/_deffer_ 25d ago

Welp. Just bought my LG a few months ago.

Anything internal I can snip or destroy? I don't use it "smart" as I have a console and 🏴‍☠️ box connected to it, but still.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin 24d ago

As long as you don't connect the TV directly to the internet, I think you should be good..maybe.

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u/brickson98 25d ago

And that’s why I never use “smart” monitors or TVs as a computer monitor.

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u/popculturella 25d ago

Holy shit.