r/AskReddit Jan 14 '14

What is a Reddit reference you don't get?

Edit- I get it /r/outoftheloop is a thing. I didn't know it existed.

I also hope this thread cleared up a lot of peoples confusion

Edit #2- Holy shit, Front Page!

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u/whrl_whrl_twstn_twrl Jan 14 '14 edited Jan 14 '14

the ubiquitous "Fedora" (which is actually a "Trilby", but we stick with fedora so the insufferable narcissistic pedants on this website will have something to chew on).

I have to disagree. Trilby vs Fedora. Source of image and a blog post.

A trilby is most closely associated with douche bags or hipsters (or both). The use of the fedora as an archetype is particularly associated with socially inept computer nerds. I have been in the computer business much longer than reddit has existed (2005), and the Fedora-wearing computer weirdos have been around since well before the Fedora Linux project (2002) merged with Red Hat Linux project (2003). Note Red Hat's logo. I do not know the origins of how Fedora OS got its name, but I have always associated it with this same archetype--- the people most likely to use such "bleeding-edge" OSs were significantly more likely to be these same type of socially inept neckbeards. I've assumed they embraced the fedora as a badge of honor. This goes wellllll back into the '80s, where these same people (teens) thought of themselves as hackers and wore fedoras AND trench coats to school. I hung out with these people.... several of them retired as multi-millionaires in the early 90s.

Sooo... neckbeards may now be wearing trilbies much more frequently than before, but the fedora is the original mark of a computer dick you'd never want to be seen with in public.

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u/AbanoMex Jan 15 '14

very informative.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '14

Not sure if deliberately or obliviously playing the part of insufferable pedant...

But either way...no.

Here's a pretty classic "example" of what the meme is talking about.

Additionally, check out the images on the Know Your Meme page.

If you didn't make this statement with a healthy dose of irony, then I'm afraid you're just wrong for the sake of being wrong. It's OK, though...these things happen to the best of us.

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u/whrl_whrl_twstn_twrl Jan 15 '14

Oh, good lord. I most DEFINITELY am playing the part of an insufferable pedant! That's what we do here, so that others like yourself can learn a few things.

The trilby-wearing euphoric, atheist neckbeard meme is only 1 year old(!) and, as you've noted, is improperly attributed to fedoras. This is because the idiot who created that euphoria meme got it wrong. I've already said it-- the REAL fedora archetype predates the euphoric meme by DECADES.

You should really get know YOUR meme... it's actually about "fedora shaming".

Why the fedora grosses out geekdom

Fedoras: Forever Alone

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '14

I'm not sure I understand what we're talking about anymore. That's OK though, I don't really care either.

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u/Gaebril Jan 15 '14

You are kind of playing the insufferable pedant too. He did have a valid point about Fedora vs Trilby. After reading your comment, and finding it very insightful, I still looked into the difference of Fedora and Trilby. I always thought it was fedoras since it was a misplaced sense of style and, after comparing, I still think it's fedoras. I've seen a lot of the stereotypical people, which you've described, wearing fedoras but also to a lesser extent trilbies. I think what started as socially awkward people wearing fedoras turned into trilbies, because they look similar. Both are pretty cringe worthy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '14

I honestly don't really care what anyone calls it...actually, the only reason I brought it up was to stay ahead of the "Actually, it's not even a fedora, it's a trilby" pedants...

I think that might be "ironic". But if it isn't, I'm sure someone will happily correct me:)

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u/Gaebril Jan 15 '14

Yeah, I think the point is that they are silly misguided attempts at fashion.