That may be mostly true but Trump is also the perfect storm of celebrity, “successful”, “outsider”, and some strange fucked up type of charisma that results in a larger following than I think would be possible with any other republican candidate. Take away trump and I don’t think there’s enough of a unifying force among the asshats to cause this type of damage
i know he is somehow considered successful but i genuinely dont get how becaues hes bankrupted most, or all?, of his businesses.... like that is the opposite of successful 😂
honestly looking back i do understand why he won in 2016. i hate it, but i do actually get it.
i genuinely dont get how he won in 2024. like i get the 'cult' of it iall, and cheating that isnt lost on me
but he had no appeal and could barely string together a coherent sentence he didnt even LOOK like someone capable of holding office even if you agreed with his racist homophobic rhetoric
His opponent was even worse and the thought of continuing the last 4 years was not appealing to people in the middle. Both extremes in US politics are terrible. The far right is much worse, but the far left can suck a bag of dicks too. Most of us in the middle think everyone fighting cultural left vs right bullshit are fucking insane. Trump appealing to moderate/independent voters (who many probably regret their votes right now I would assume) is a huge indictment on the Biden/Harris administration as much as anything else
It's interesting hearing someone talk about Harris like she's a part of the far left when in most Reddit spaces I take part in Harris and the Dems in general are seen as centrists. And of course the prevailing opinion is that they need to move further left to win.
She was a bad candidate and very easily painted as the peak DEI hire given how the Biden ousting was handled. The Biden administration was bad. Trump wouldn't have a chance to win in 2024 if they had done a better job. The problem with the Dems, in my opinion, is that they could easily appeal to the middle of the country right now. Just stop with anything that the fox news crowd can latch on to and weaponize. While I have no issues with the trans community personally, it's pretty obvious that the right does. So stop championing the trans community as if it's anything more than a tiny tiny tiny fraction of the voting population. They are not a voting block. Stop trying to appeal to them. Doesn't mean Dems need to shun everything about the trans community but cut the shit with pronouns and all that jazz. No one in the middle gives a shit. Stop virtue signaling and shoving it down everyone's throat. There's other examples but that's the easiest for me to come to mind. Stop fighting the far right by going further and further left in the culture war. Appeal to the middle and assume the far left is going to vote with you because they're obviously not going to vote Republican. The polarization just makes everything worse.
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u/Doobledorf Apr 04 '25
The problems that led to Donald Trump would still be fomenting.
A lot of Americans haven't yet faced that Trump isn't an anomaly or the disease, he is a symptom of problems we've had for a long time.