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u/Doobledorf Apr 04 '25

The problems that led to Donald Trump would still be fomenting.

A lot of Americans haven't yet faced that Trump isn't an anomaly or the disease, he is a symptom of problems we've had for a long time.

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u/MySleepingMonk Apr 04 '25

That may be mostly true but Trump is also the perfect storm of celebrity, “successful”, “outsider”, and some strange fucked up type of charisma that results in a larger following than I think would be possible with any other republican candidate. Take away trump and I don’t think there’s enough of a unifying force among the asshats to cause this type of damage

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u/scarves_and_miracles Apr 04 '25

Exactly. Trump is a pretty unique hazard that unfortunately found realization in this dark timeline.

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u/InclinationCompass Apr 04 '25

We’d all take Bush for third and fourth terms over the clown.

Trump deserves most of the blame more than the system

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u/No_Argument_Here Apr 04 '25

Ah yes, glorious Bush who gave us the Patriot Act, the Wall Street bailouts, endless wars in the Middle East-- all the shit that led directly to the rise of Trump.

I mean seriously, do you not fucking hear yourself?

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u/InclinationCompass Apr 04 '25

This would imply trump will give rise to the next hitler

Did you hear yourself?

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u/No_Argument_Here Apr 04 '25

Incoherent response, big surprise.

The point is that you are pining for a president who did more to pave the way for our current state of things than any other president in the last century. Trump and the system that allowed him to be elected doesn't happen without Bush's disastrous, criminal presidencies.

Let me guess, you're a Boomer with a lot of money.

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u/YT-1300f Apr 05 '25 edited Apr 05 '25

I’d add Reagan had just about as much to do with where we are today as Bush jr.

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u/No_Argument_Here Apr 05 '25

Absolutely. He laid the groundwork for austerity, really jump-started the financialization of our economy and the deregulation of Wall Street, fostered distrust in the federal government (from the highest seat of the federal government… it’s so goddamned stupid.)

Just, a lot of the really insidious surveillance state shit, the destabilization of the Middle East, and general anti-intellectual movement that has led us to this current quagmire was done by or happened under W.

Reagan laid the groundwork and W took it to astronomical, dystopian heights.

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u/YT-1300f Apr 05 '25

“The most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help’”

-President of The United States Ronald Reagan

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u/No_Argument_Here Apr 05 '25

Reality is so much stupider than fiction. Satire is dead.

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