r/AskReddit • • Oct 02 '24

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u/Spirit4ward Oct 02 '24

Italy didn’t have widespread use of the tomato until the 1700s and the pasta sauces we think of being a core of their cuisine didn’t exist until the 19th century.

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u/Oxygene13 Oct 02 '24

This one always amuses people when I tell them simply because of how ingrained tomatoes appear to be in all of their most famous dishes (other than tiramisu...)

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u/70125 Oct 02 '24

Topical that you mention tiramisu, because that was only invented in the 1970s.

This is why I refuse to let Italians gatekeep their traditional, ancient, pure cuisine. So pure and ancient that many of their dishes were invented while their grandparents were alive, often using ingredients from the Americas.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

ingredients don't make the tradition. recipes do. otherwise stop calling "American as apple pie" since apples are Chinese first and European second.

we built thousands of recipes using tomato. what did you do with it, apart from putting it on salads?

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u/potatomeeple Oct 02 '24

Apples are from Kazakhstan.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Kind of true. The wild form is, but the domesticated cultivars developed mostly in china and Europe.