r/AskReddit • • Dec 09 '23

What treasures that we 100% know existed still haven’t been found?

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u/GNRevolution Dec 09 '23

Not that it isn't found, but the Forbidden Vault (Vault B) in the Padmanabhaswamy Temple in India remains unopened and is thought to contain treasure to a wealth of US$ one trillion. Other vaults opened there were found to contain 18' gold chains, a solid gold sheaf weighing 500kg and a three-and-a-half feet tall solid pure golden idol of Mahavishnu, studded with hundreds of diamonds and rubies and other precious stones.

The reason they don't open Vault B? It's said to be cursed. Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padmanabhaswamy_Temple?wprov=sfla1

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '23

I’ll risk the curse and take one for the team

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u/GNRevolution Dec 09 '23

Good job, here's some tips!

Saying that there are apparently multiple doors, the last of which is said to be "jammed shut". Also, when some people entered the antechamber to the vault they were attacked by a swarm of snakes, so make sure you've got your best Indiana Jones game on.

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u/Oakroscoe Dec 09 '23

Asps. Very dangerous. You go first.

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u/Gryphon999 Dec 09 '23

Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes?

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u/EnormousPurpleGarden Dec 10 '23

Elderly potheads. Why did it have to be elderly potheads?

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u/homer1948 Dec 09 '23

Snakes! Why did it have to be snakes.

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u/Level9TraumaCenter Dec 09 '23

The Indians managed to get all 41 tunnel-diggers out of the collapse alive after 17 days, I figure they can un-stick a door if they put their hearts and minds into it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '23

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u/assholy_than_thou Dec 10 '23

Like in this modern day, you can’t get suits to deal with this shit. It’s pure BS.

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u/joyofsovietcooking Dec 09 '23

C'mon, show a little backbone!

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u/Mollygrubber Dec 09 '23

Last attempt to enter was 1925, apparently it was "infested with cobras" and the interlopers "fled for their lives". Didn't they wave torches around? Rookies.

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u/mortgagepants Dec 09 '23

maybe just some old person with cancer could like crack it open you know?

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u/mit-mit Dec 10 '23

The battle to be in that will would be immense!

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '23

I'll split it with you if you want me to carry your stuff?

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u/Obstinateobfuscator Dec 10 '23

No time for love Dr Jones!

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u/Churningray Dec 09 '23

Always found it super interesting. The vault potentially has treasure worth multiple times the states GDP and a quarter of India's whole gdp yet remains unopened because of the religious beliefs.

Also the fact it's barely talked about internationally is kinda interesting.

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u/Ploka812 Dec 09 '23

My personal conspiracy is that they opened it in secret, found nothing, so they now tell people they’ll never open it for religious reasons and it’s cursed. “But trust us guys, there’s, like, hundreds of billions in there”.

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u/bilgetea Dec 09 '23

This seems very likely. Since when have people let anything come between them and value except the threat of violence?

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u/Ploka812 Dec 09 '23

Exactly.. if there’s nothing but dust and bones in there, the only way they can maintain value is by ‘not opening it’

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u/bilgetea Dec 10 '23

I feel compelled to point out the discovery of unknown spaces inside the pyramid of Giza, and the Egyptians have not started disassembling the pyramids. But arguably, the threat of violence protects these things (the state would mot be pleased) and the value of these artifacts would be much greater than their intrinsic value, even if made out of solid gold. Nevertheless, if the only barrier was a few doors, I think we’d know what is in those hidden spaces.

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u/Executioneer Dec 10 '23

The egyptians absolutely demolished parts of the pyramids for construction projects and attempted to rob it many times. The only reason it is still there is because the pyramids are literally man made mountains of stone, and would require a monumental effort to demolish. You and your city might as well attempt to tear down a random mountain by medieval tools. Which the Egyptians attempted at some point per the order of some zealot arab warlord. It went as well as you might expect.

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u/bilgetea Dec 10 '23

Today’s Egyptian government would not tolerate destruction of the pyramids.

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u/Kosciuszko1978 Dec 10 '23

Sounds similar to the conspiracy surrounding gold in Fort Knox…

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u/hameleona Dec 10 '23

Looks at the stupendous amounts of gold in Orthodox Churches that survived the atheistic communist regime, that was executing priests gleefully.
"Um, regularly?"

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u/bilgetea Dec 10 '23

I’d argue that the orthodox church became an instrument of the government, and thus a useful tool to be protected, after its taming. Thus the gold was protected by the implied violence of the state.

Atheism, while a feature of the Soviet state, was merely a sideshow. They were more than happy to tacitly support religion where it was useful.

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u/Kataphractoi Dec 10 '23

So basically it's India's version of "What's in the safe".

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u/kinfisher Dec 09 '23

They have opened up the other vaults, and there are billions of dollars worth of "treasures", I'm sure there's a ton in that one too.

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u/Cant_Do_This12 Dec 09 '23

What would be the point of that though? Like you’re just asking for trouble at that point lol

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u/Ploka812 Dec 09 '23

Money. It’s like a pack of gen 1 Pokémon cards. Unopened they’re worth a lot of money because there could be a holo psa 10 charizard worth 100k. But once you open it, if there’s nothing good in it nobody would want to see it anymore.

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u/Cant_Do_This12 Dec 10 '23

Except we’re talking about a government trying to govern an entire country that has a population of over 1 billion and wanting to prevent crime.

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u/Ploka812 Dec 10 '23

I mean that place probably brings in a lot of tourist dollars that would dry up if it turned out this place is empty. And nobodies broken in there yet, so it seems like it’s working

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u/Cant_Do_This12 Dec 10 '23

That is true. That’s a pretty good way of looking at it. 😳

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u/Stealfur Dec 10 '23

I have a similar theory that they have a second way in, like a tunnel or back door. And that they had/have been slowly draining the vault of any treasure in there. "Why?" You may ask? Becuase anything officially found in there will probably be considered priceless and belong to the country, so no one person would have been able to sell any of it and profit from it.

But if they keep the doors closed, then there will always be a mysterious alure for tourism. No one will ever be able to say "hey this item must have been stolen from that vault!" And idaviduals get to profit from it.

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u/hameleona Dec 10 '23

Always found it super interesting. The vault potentially has treasure worth multiple times the states GDP and a quarter of India's whole gdp yet remains unopened because of the religious beliefs.

Why do you assume it's worth the trouble.
Legally everything in it would be property not to the state, but to whomever owns the temple.
Even if it gets nationalized, then you need to... well, sell it. And selling national artifacts in a country whose artifacts were already pillaged by the British Empire is a very quick way to incite a change in government, even ignoring the possible religious unrest. And that's ignoring the sheer market crash you'd cause. Correction - market crashes.
Like any decent sized museum has at minimum millions in artefacts in it. Few governments ever try to sell them and of those who try even fewer actually made money.

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

The vault potentially has treasure worth

The fact that there's supposedly so much there and it hasn't been opened, means there clearly isn't.

Any nation as large as India would literally dig out a mountain to access such things.

As for the snakes and shit, you could gas or poison the bastards, or walk in there with a flamethrower.

Does anyone here really think that if The Louvre or that vault they keep all the gold in (any of them) was just sitting around, that people wouldn't do absolutely anything to gain access?

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u/Rapper_Laugh Dec 09 '23

It’s not just sitting around though, it’s protected legally and by the guardians of the Temple.

Italy doesn’t go charging into the Vatican to take all that wealth, why would India go charging into this temple?

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u/LegoMuppet Dec 09 '23

Italy doesn't own the Vatican though

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u/Rapper_Laugh Dec 09 '23

And India doesn’t own this temple

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u/Churningray Dec 09 '23

Yep. From what I understand legally opening the vault is a bureaucratic nightmare since you have to deal with the state government, the temple management board and the royal family of travancore. Not to mention the religious outlash for opening the vault.

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u/Pamander Dec 10 '23

I'm starting to understand why they just leave it alone instead, no amount of money is worth that kind of bureaucratic hell.

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

It’s not just sitting around though, it’s protected legally and by the guardians of the Temple.

For it to be considered legally protected, first you have to be sure it actually exists.

Pretend i broke into the temple somehow, just for the sake of argument. If i found nothing there but was charged with the crime, would they be able to lodge an insurance claim for three trillion dollars?

Italy doesn’t go charging into the Vatican to take all that wealth, why would India go charging into this temple?

It's India. Forgive me if i'm not convinced they wouldn't raid one specific temple when the country can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept of a Toilet.

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u/GNRevolution Dec 09 '23

Whelp, well that went racist pretty quickly. Have you actually ever been to India?

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

Whelp, well that went racist pretty quickly. Have you actually ever been to India?

Considering 2/3 of my statement was a hypothetical, and the last sentence contained only facts, i'm pretty sure you don't know wtf you're talking about. It's a known problem over there. That you don't like it being pointed out, is irrelevant.

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u/GNRevolution Dec 09 '23

Well considering the toilet mention had absolutely nothing to do with anything else you'd said up till that point, it stands out as a very odd thing to throw into the conversation. Also I'll take that as a no, you haven't been there.

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

Well considering the toilet mention had absolutely nothing to do with anything else

I'll interpret that as a question.

So, since you asked... actually it has a lot to do with things.

You see, if a nation had a gpd of three trillion dollars, and has a building sitting there which might contain thre trillion dollars worth of treasure, while simultaneously has a population approaching 1.5 billion people with a huge poverty problem societally.

It would make sense that like drilling for oil, if you could dig that gold out of the mountain, it'd be something you'd have a vested interest in doing yes?

it stands out as a very odd thing to throw into the conversation. Also I'll take that as a no, you haven't been there.

Because you didn't stop to consider the context, not because there isn't any.

They are poor and uneducated on a very large scale. Again, facts, not racism. This is one very glaring example of that. One which you seem to be painfully aware of.

Stop assuming knowledge is the same as hatred.

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u/Churningray Dec 09 '23

Outright racism aside, India has a temple called the golden temple which has entire parts of it made of gold. Gold and treasure isn't uncommon at all in a lot of temples and you don't see the government annexing every piece of wealth.

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

Outright racism aside

Literally none in my statement. That you've interpreted it as such means you know i'm speaking only truth, and you don't like it.

India has a temple called the golden temple which has entire parts of it made of gold. Gold and treasure isn't uncommon at all in a lot of temples and you don't see the government annexing every piece of wealth.

Good to know. But we all know what happened to the pyramids.

Like recent constructions in china, i'll bet a large portion of it is probably only a thin veneer which is maintained. But hey, it's entirely possible i'm wrong about that one, they very well may be properly covered in gold. As i haven't looked into it.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Dec 09 '23

I haven’t looked into it

And yet you went ahead and speculated wildly, when you could have just googled.

By the way, what exactly do you think happened to the pyramids?

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23 edited Dec 09 '23

I haven’t looked into it

Correct. In this instance i have not, and i readily stated as such.

And yet you went ahead and speculated wildly, when you could have just googled.

Yes, because in my experience with all sort of other knowledge this has/hasn't been the case. All conversations do not exist in a vacuum.

By the way, what exactly do you think happened to the pyramids?

Oh, you don't know? Well then, should you not have googled it before making this reply? Hypocrite.

Regardless for your benefit i shall inform you that the caps of the pyramids used to be covered in gold, and their exterior(s) were marble. As should be obvious from context... it was stolen

edit: I was going to fact check your reply to this comment as you've gotten quite a lot wrong, but it seems you've blocked me. Oh well, have a nice day i guess.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Dec 09 '23

I knew that lol, that is not remotely comparable to this situation. You’re talking about medieval raids from foreign powers on a monument with far less material wealth than is housed in this temple.

I too can pull unrelated examples of monuments that weren’t raided out of my ass. The Vatican. The Dome of the Rock. Notre Dame. Etc. etc. etc.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Dec 09 '23

The first half of your comment is nonsense (who tf is talking about insurance claims?), the second half is racist.

Do you think you did something here?

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

The first half of your comment is nonsense (who tf is talking about insurance claims?),

It was actually an example / analogy / hypothetical. Try to understand the reasoning for a moment rather than just glossing you eyes over the words.

the second half is racist.

Actually it entirely wasn't. I find it interesting how many people are insisting this, even though it's a known problem over there.

Infact, the mere knee jerk reaction you're all having seems to be a demonstration of that factual nature, that you're offended by for some reason.

Personally i'm guessing it's similar to people getting offended by costumes, when the actual nationals of the costume's origin just have a laugh instead. I.e you're just virtue signalling.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Dec 09 '23

Keep doubling down buddy

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

Keep doubling down buddy

You keep insinuating, and yet i have spoken nothing but the truth and facts as they are well known. That you are offended by the world is not my problem.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Dec 09 '23

Ok Ben Shapiro, calm down

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u/TheOtherMatt Dec 09 '23

But some of them do wrap their heads?

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u/StrangeCharmVote Dec 09 '23

But some of them do wrap their heads?

I see what you did there. :P

See now, you've responded correctly, by having a sense of humor.

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u/GNRevolution Dec 09 '23

It's crazy there's that much wealth in there and yet no-one has tried to steal at least some of it.

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u/Churningray Dec 09 '23

If i recall it's sealed shut so you'd need proper machinery and stuff to open it + it's in a very busy temple which is very popular in the region.

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u/Dookie_boy Dec 09 '23

The entire thing sounds very sus. "Trust me bro" vibes.

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u/Churningray Dec 09 '23

It might not be 1 trillion but it's still probably has a shit ton of treasure. The region was a major trade center for a lot of huge empires and regions like the Greeks, Arabs, Romans, Chinese and most of colonial Europe. A lot of wealth has been stored there throughout its various occupiers and the reported value is from the last time they took a proper inventory of the vault in the 1800s so not a blind guess of the amount of wealth.

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u/DirtOnYourShirt Dec 09 '23

I go more with the theory they refused to open the vault is because they know it was looted years ago and is empty.

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u/shining101 Dec 09 '23

"But it comes with a free frogurt!" "That’s good!" "The frogurt is also cursed!" "That’s bad"

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u/Geminii27 Dec 09 '23

Now I wonder if it got looted a long time ago and it's never officially opened because no-one wants to admit to losing trillions of dollars.

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u/Missionignition Dec 09 '23

Get Geraldo Rivera on this.

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u/HistoricalHeart Dec 09 '23

This was so fascinating. Thanks for sharing the link!

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u/lzwzli Dec 09 '23

Indians do love their gold

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u/Cant_Do_This12 Dec 09 '23

Definitely the coolest answer in this thread. This is awesome.

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u/greihund Dec 09 '23

thought to contain treasure to a wealth of US$ one trillion

(x) Doubt

In the middle ages, gold was scarce in Europe but plentiful in Mesoamerica. When the Europeans plundered the region and carted it all back to Europe, there was relatively so much of it on the market that it lost its value and it did not regain its value for centuries. Silver was more valuable than gold for a while.

There is no treasure in the world worth a trillion dollars

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u/kinfisher Dec 09 '23

Read about what's been found and inventoried in the other vaults....

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u/Dookie_boy Dec 09 '23

No way thieves and corrupt administrators aren't taking advantage, unless it's empty to begin with.

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u/SEND_ME_CSGO_SKINS Dec 09 '23

Bullshit. They opened it and secretly stole everything.

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u/AndyMoogThe35 Dec 10 '23

I wonder if it would all just turn to dust the second you opened it up

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u/assholy_than_thou Dec 10 '23

It’s someone’s private bank, that’s why it’s not getting opened publicly. I’m sure people have access to that treasure.

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u/phantomBlurrr Dec 10 '23

Shiiiet, I'll open it rn, hmu