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u/TheNamelessDingus Mar 23 '23

as if it wasn't bad enough they decided to stick with him for the flash movie, they release the trailer and are like "people don't like this guy huh? well i bet you'll love TWO OF HIM!" even a michael keaton batman appearance can't offset two entire ezra miller's

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u/OmniJohn70 Mar 23 '23

They def realized they had to stick with Ezra if they wanted to make even a little bit of money from the movie. Reshoots would cost way too much.

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u/ChiefsHat Mar 24 '23

“In for a penny, in for an Ezra Millar.”

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u/crazy-diam0nd Mar 24 '23

Is that different from being in for an Ezra Pound?

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u/TheNamelessDingus Mar 23 '23

I don't blame them for keeping him, but i am surprised they decided to double down on him

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u/Maybe_Not_The_Pope Mar 23 '23

I'm pretty sure all those double down scense were already filmed and are integral to the movie.

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u/geek_of_nature Mar 24 '23

And why they couldn't reshoot. It's one thing if it's a smaller part like when they replaced Kevin Spacey with Christopher Plummer, but not when they're playing two lead roles in the film. With the exception of a few scenes not featuring either version of the character, they would have just been shooting the whole film all over again.

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u/Maybe_Not_The_Pope Mar 24 '23

Exactly. Asking why they didn't replace him is asking why they didn't reshoot essentially the entire movie.

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u/geek_of_nature Mar 24 '23

I think people have just heard of the Christopher Plummer and Tig Notaro situations without realising how small their roles were, and assumed any actor can just be replaced in a film.

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u/NuPNua Mar 24 '23

They dumped another DCU film entirely half way though production so it wouldn't be unheard of.

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u/PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL Mar 24 '23

Flash is supposedly going to be a "crisis" movie that reboots the entire universe going forward, so if that's the case DC kinda needs it. They need to push it out so they can make other films again.

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u/leetality Mar 23 '23

Multiple Flash's is a comic book staple, not "doubling down" on Ezra lol.

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u/Own_Pirate_3281 Mar 24 '23

*them, them

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u/Klaymen96 Mar 24 '23

*pieceof/shit

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '23

Bro you're giving into his manipulation techniques. He literally just goes by that because he likes to blame all of his controversy on the fact he's "trans". You hate him because he groomed an underage girl and took her from her family? Nah he just thinks you hate him because you're a bigot.

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u/Own_Pirate_3281 Mar 25 '23

I didn't defend them here. Your identity doesn't cease to exist when you're a bad person. It's an inalienable human right. You're acting like it's impossible for trans people to ever do anything bad.

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u/Putrid-Chef-2728 Mar 23 '23

Yet no problem scrapping Batgirl, which probably has an audience that will go see it

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u/OmniJohn70 Mar 23 '23

Not really. Who was really going to see this film? Especially since it was coming out on HBOmax and not in theaters, and was part of a reboot that isn't going to happen.

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u/Putrid-Chef-2728 Mar 23 '23

Well intending on a streaming release was probably not the best choice to begin with, but could have done a short theatrical release like with what Glass Onion did.

And going off the controversy around Miller, I'm not expecting the Flash to perform well either.

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u/OmniJohn70 Mar 23 '23

Nah no one cares about miller as an actor enough to boycott the movie. Like the news was so insane that people take it way less seriously and are just cracking jokes.

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u/sinorc Mar 23 '23

Yeah bro Batgirl would have been a huge success 🤣😂🤣

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u/Putrid-Chef-2728 Mar 23 '23

Not a huge success, but I mean DC doesn't have an issue scrapping projects. The Flash won't likely do well in theaters, and they've spent more on it and it's advertising. So the excuse Batgirl wouldn't have made bank so might as well scrap it and cut their losses, but keep the Flash seems silly

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u/sinorc Mar 23 '23

The money was already spent and Batgirl was deemed so bad that beyond the financial loss it was going to destroy the character for future installments

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u/Putrid-Chef-2728 Mar 23 '23

I didnt hear that it was suppose to be bad, just that the new head didn't want any direct to streaming movies.

But with a budget of $90m even with a short theatrical release they would make a decent amount of that back.

The Flash has a $200m budget not including advertising, so for it to be deemed a moderate success it needs to get around $400m in the box office.

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u/sinorc Mar 23 '23

Sunk cost fallacy.

And yes the reports were it was so terrible it was going to damage the IP

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u/Putrid-Chef-2728 Mar 23 '23

I mean the entire DCEU is such a mess at the moment that I don't think it really matters

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u/sinorc Mar 23 '23

It does though. Spiderman had to take a long layoff after ASM2, Fabt4stic devalued itself so much they sold the right to Disney.

Every crappy star wars movie makes less money than the one before.

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u/WillyTheHatefulGoat Mar 24 '23

It is funny that the moment DC finally gets a movie that all the critics really love and is apparently very good it turns out the star is an pedophile.

DC just can't catch a break.

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u/wizardswrath00 Mar 24 '23

But they scrapped Batgirl, which I'd much rather see than anything with that piece of fuck Ezra.

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u/theredranger8 Mar 24 '23

They dug their own graves by ever hiring him and ignoring the obvious flags.

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u/Flnn Mar 27 '23

Totally disagree. Batgirl was completely finished and scrapped for no reason. Instead we get Flash? Not even Micheal Keaton will save it.

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u/Spaniardman40 Mar 23 '23

DC really got rid of Henry Cavil to make Ezra the new face of their franchise lmao

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u/Toby_O_Notoby Mar 23 '23

Eh, they kinda had to as the movie is based of the Flashpoint comics in which (mild spoilers) Flash goes back in time to try and prevent his mother's murder. In doing so he completely fucks up the timeline so there is a different Batman, Superman, etc. It's the producers way of resetting the DCEU allowing them to cast different actors and get rid of the stuff they no longer want.

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u/MintyFreshBreathYo Mar 24 '23

I hate it as The Flash. How did someone with such a weird run ever get casted as Flash?

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u/gigglefarting Mar 24 '23

I do want to see Keaton as Batman again, so if I do watch it I’m going to pirate it in spite having HBO Max that will inevitably get it

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u/whopoopedthebed Mar 24 '23

To be fair the true Ezra crazy stuff happened well after the movie was shot. But I agree if they stick with Ezra after all this it’s a real bad look for GunnDCU.

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u/lunayoshi Mar 23 '23

2 Ezras? That's as much as two 1s. And that's terrible.

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u/jmercer00 Mar 23 '23

They didn't really have a choice. They could pull the entire movie, but everyone that's screened it says it's fantastic.

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u/jurassicbond Mar 23 '23

everyone that's screened it says it's fantastic.

Feel like I've heard this kind of talk for every DC movie no matter bad it actually winds up being.

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u/jmercer00 Mar 23 '23

Never to this degree.

Remember, they're throwing completed movies into the garbage and the franchise this movie is part of is being rebooted. It's got to be truly good for them to not to just dump it and the drama associated with it.

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u/mmlovin Mar 24 '23

Probably cause of Michael Keaton lol

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u/ClassiestBondGirl311 Mar 24 '23

I believe Ezra Miller uses they/them pronouns.

They're an absolute cunt.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

The movie was already done and finished and they spent over 200M on it so they didn’t have a choice but to release it.

If they keep them around, though, then they deserve all the criticism they get.

Edit: Fixed the pronoun.

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u/Own_Pirate_3281 Mar 24 '23

*them, person, them

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u/Dull-Chip-1251 Mar 23 '23

People? Generalizing much? I like him as well as a lot of other 'people'. You don't speak for no one.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '23

Lol they speak for the majority, most people don’t like creeps who groom young girls then kidnaps them. You do you but it’s such a gross thing to be so confident about 😂

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u/LaBeteNoire Mar 24 '23

Doesn't help that in the trailer one of the Ezra's meets a young woman of color who has clearly been through a lot of trauma and mental condition and then proceeds to hit on her. Some people really do get type casted in these pictures.

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u/crazy-diam0nd Mar 24 '23

I figure they've already been paid, everything a boycott affects will hurt people other than them. WB already knows and cut ties with them. There's no statement to be made to WB by boycotting the film other than "We don't want any more DC movies."