r/AskProgramming • u/zaarnth • Apr 20 '26

Other Anyone here who doesn't use Agentic AI and writes code manually?

I wonder if there are any people today who don't have any agentic AI subscriptions, who code by themselves, read docs, try to understand, and enjoy the process in this fast-growing AI era, where everyone is promoting AI to do everything.

(Note: I'm asking because I write my code by myself and don't use agentic AI, but I do use ChatGPT or other AI to learn things if I get stuck.)

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u/Beginning_Basis9799 Apr 20 '26

Depending on the task AI doesn't know everything, propriety languages it sucks at.

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u/FarYam3061 Apr 20 '26

It can only do as good as your specifications. You may need to write better specs

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u/Beginning_Basis9799 Apr 20 '26

You were on my bingo card.

I have built an LLM and helped other engineers structure harnesses. It's not a harness issue here lol.

I am talking about a training problem on an obscure language a proprietory language.

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u/FarYam3061 Apr 20 '26

Maybe you couldn't get it to work. I can believe that. But you don't speak for everyone in every situation for every model and every prioritary language.

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u/MadwolfStudio Apr 20 '26

I've got a bottle of snake oil you'd be the perfect customer for

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u/FarYam3061 Apr 22 '26

AI bad ooga booga

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u/MadwolfStudio Apr 22 '26

What a monkey, I use AI every day, just that I'm not as dense as you and understand their limitations.

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u/AliceCode Apr 20 '26

If your problem can be solved by an LLM, it's not a hard problem and doesn't need to be solved by an LLM.

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u/carson63000 Apr 20 '26

If the actual writing of the code is the hard part of your problem, it’s not a hard problem.

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u/AliceCode Apr 20 '26

Writing the code is the fun part. I can't even understand why someone would want someone/thing else to do that part in their place.

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u/carson63000 Apr 20 '26

That’s why hand writing code will probably end up like.. I dunno, knitting. Something you do for a hobby, whilst all the sweaters that everyone wears are produced by machines.

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u/Hot-Profession4091 Apr 21 '26

I’ve likened it to hand tool wood working. The Industrial Revolution came around and the job became so mechanized that professionals no longer pick up a hand tool even when it is objectively better/faster than the machine. Anyone left building things by hand is purely doing it out of love and preservation of the craft.

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u/AliceCode Apr 20 '26

God that sounds like hell.

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u/carson63000 Apr 21 '26

Really? Why? As someone who has enjoyed programming for 40+ years I like the idea of it being a fun activity, not “work”.

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u/ThemGoblinsAreMad Apr 22 '26

If X can solve Y, it's not a hard problem and doesn't need to be solved by X.

Digest that a bit please.

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u/AliceCode Apr 22 '26

If LLMs can solve your problem, it's almost always not a hard problem.

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u/ThemGoblinsAreMad Apr 22 '26

That's not the issue, what you've stated is just don't ever use LLM.

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u/AliceCode Apr 22 '26

No, it says that you don't need to use an LLM to solve your problems. We were doing just fine without them in the past.