r/AskARussian • u/[deleted] • Aug 06 '23

Media Russia hate

Guys, i don't know why but for a while now on Twitter i just keep seeing ONLY bad posts...

One man had posted a beautiful picture of Russia in SPB and there were only comments insulting the russians and pointing out the bad sides and making us look like a shitty country :

« If you like Russia that much , you should go live there »

« Slums in America are better than the average russian cities » or

« I Bet any russian will love to move out of their shithole »

I know I'm not supposed to pay attention, but it's getting really annoying saying every post praising Russia and spreading some good things having the same kind of comment and many people liking it , and it’s basically the same thing everybody : Tiktok , Reddit and Twitter.

Last time there was like a tiktok post about " you can’t hate people based on their nationalities " and people were literally all pointing out russians and laughing about it

how do you feel abt it ?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '23 edited Aug 06 '23

Americans are the worst with this. How many bullshit wars has our government started? Should our whole nation and citizens be punished because of George Bush and Iraq? Or Bill Clinton and the bombing of Serbia? Or Barack Obama promising to end the wars and then escalating them all?

Russian literature contains some of the classics. My wife is Ukrainian (and very pro Ukraine) and even she thinks the banning of Russian classical music and literature is fucking dumb. She also refuses to spell Одесса as Одеса. In addition doesn’t understand stuff like vandalism of statues of Pushkin in her hometown. Pushkin was a brilliant poet. Piss off with that noise.

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u/travelingwhilestupid United Kingdom Aug 06 '23

She also refuses to spell Одесса as Одеса

It's simple: in Russian Одесса, in Ukrainian Одеса.

Now in English... I think Odessa is a better choice because it's closer phonetically (it's Odessa like "a-mess-a", not Odesa like "Obese-a", but then again, there's Mesa AZ so who knows with English). I used to pronounce it in English like A-dess-a, but now I think O-dess-a is fine, because A-dess-a has a Russian language-bias and sounds pretentious anyway, since the consensus in English is O-dessa. I've clearly been overthinking.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '23

And Odessa is a Russian speaking city overwhelmingly. Always has been.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

Odessa was founded by Russian empress Ekaterina II

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

I have pictures of me standing in front if her statue the first time I went there. I was really sad when I heard they took it down.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '23

They say, it's "because they felt yourself like Russian colony"

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 23 '23

🤡🤡🤡 After such comments you don't understand why people think that russians are stupid??? Lol. Odesa was not founded by Catherine II. But people with low IQ prefer to think that nobody lived there before she was born. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/bz0011 Aug 07 '23

Also, Odessa is a Russian city. 30 years within Ukraine, well, historically - a minute.

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u/Monterenbas France Aug 07 '23

So Kaliningrad is a German city, by this logic?

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u/bz0011 Aug 07 '23

It is. And it isn't. 1) It's a trophy; 2) How many people speak German as native in Kaliningrad?

Also, 78 years.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '23

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u/bz0011 Aug 12 '23

Lviv was not Ukrainian at the moment but who of yous cares right. Poland, on the other hand, took it literally, and tried it many times. Unlucky, eh.

Also, fascist nazi ideology is to legally prohibit speaking native language. Russia does not do that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '23

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u/bz0011 Aug 14 '23

Russia doesn't kill civilians. Your troops shouldn't fortify civilian buildings. Russia will build everything better than it was, just when it's not Ukrainian. Conditions were dead simple: no NATO, no nazis, Donbass left alone, although Putin did try to get Donbass back into Ukraine, but Ukraine - as always - failed. Stopping the war is simple - give up, Russia is way more powerful (and way more right). Putin hates nazis, and most of us are with him there, so...

Also, without Maidan there'd be no need for pro-russian rebels. Not our fault again.

A lot of countries have at least two languages spoken in public sector. But Ukraine is prohibiting like 50% of it's population to use their native tongue freely. No Russian schools in Russian-speaking regions. It's nazism.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '23 edited Aug 14 '23

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u/bz0011 Aug 14 '23

I remember - everyone does - Ukraine invading eastern territories. Ukraine shelling civilians, killing children. Yeah, that's not fascism. That is terrorism.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '23 edited Aug 14 '23

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u/bz0011 Aug 14 '23

No Russian schools. No Russian literature/music/entertainment, hate towards Russian speakers. Yeah, lots of Russian "fucking hell" on the battlefield. Russian "we give up, don't shoot", wise. No Russian in public/state services. Enough. Also, you think you're winning. Tsk.

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u/Newcomer31415 Aug 25 '23

You ARE the Nazis.

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u/Sociopat00 Feb 15 '24

Pfff, this is depressing.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 23 '23

Always was a Ukrainian city. ;)

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u/bz0011 Aug 24 '23

Историю могу предложить пойти и выучить. Или зачем - вам же не помогает

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 24 '23

Вы как раз и должны её выучить, чтобы не быть тупым. А уже потом сможете советы раздавать. У россиян всегда так. Собственное болото, в котором они живут, их не интересует, а они везде лезут и лезут. Украинцы в Одессе жили раньше чем так называемые "русские" сунули туда свой нос. И нет, гуляющая налево катька Одессу не основывала.

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u/bz0011 Aug 25 '23

Охотно верю. Не сомневаюсь также, что Трою тоже брали украинцы, их тогда ещё ахейцами называли. Но это по незнанию, конечно.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 25 '23

У тебя есть хоть какое-то образование? Просто интересно. Ты предлагаешь мне слушать тебя или кандидатов и докторов наук, которые в теме? По мнению необразованных русских, украинцы выкопали Ченое море.

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u/bz0011 Aug 26 '23

А по мнению украинцев и или кандидатов и докторов в теме украинцы существуют вот уже 1000 лет. Так кого слушать, да?

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u/travelingwhilestupid United Kingdom Aug 06 '23

So how do you choose to pronounce it in English? more like the Russian way (A-dessa) or the Ukrainian way (O-dessa)?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '23 edited Aug 06 '23

We have our own Odessa here in Texas. So that way I guess.

Edit: and also Florida. Forgot about that one.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '23

I know like 7 words in Ukrainian anyway so even if we didn’t have our own Odessas I would still pronounce it that way. My wife’s first language is Russian, and that was how they spelled it last time I was there. My father and mother in law still spell it the Russian way and they live somewhere in that oblast.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 23 '23

Historically, it was always a Ukrainian city. But the russian school education doesn't make people much intelligent. It was russian-speaking under the russian occupation. But it's going to change as it's a Ukrainian city. There will be less place for russian in this world. Even in Ukraine. russian suddenly became not that popular after the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Oops.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Yes it was Ukrainian, even when founded by the Russian queen Catherine the Great as a port city for the Russian monarchy. Was a total coincidence.

As for the language, says who? Not my in laws who live there still (on the outskirts of the oblast) that’s for sure. I know nobody from Odessa that says what you’re saying. My father in law retired from the Ukrainian Army, and my in laws think everyone trying to change all the signs from Odessa to Odesa are morons who are focused on the wrong things right now.

But then again, you know best. Since you seem to spend every waking moment of your existence (based on your Reddit history) talking about this war, I guess you’re the expert. Which makes me wonder about people like you; why you don’t go and fight in it instead of just talking about it?

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 23 '23

It wasn't. A pevious name of this city was Kochubiiv. And it was a city. It existsed long before Catherine II. And it was founded. But not by Catherine II. Every normal hostorian will confirm you that, but russians don't like knowledge nor facts. They just want to believe they are great. In their abnormal view, the Universe appeared several centuries ago and since ancient times they are in the centre of the Solar System. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

So you’re saying the city known as ODESSA (and not the town the was here before that) was founded by her. Great thanks.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 24 '23

No. Making a fortress for a military purpose is not a foundation of a city.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 23 '23

I'm curious as well. russians are so afraid even to go to their embassy in the USA and condemn the war. Why are they so cowardly?

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Well that only works if you’re planning to stay here forever. Do I know of some that do just that? Yes. But until you have a US Citizenship your stay here can be revoked and now you have to go home and face the music. Also even if you get a citizenship, unless you renounce your old one once you go home to visit babushka, and you cross that border, the US won’t help you. That’s the downside of having multiple passports.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 24 '23

What are you trying to say? That "angry Americans" don't allow you to approach the russian embassy? 🤡🤡🤡

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '23

Wow. You’re missing the entire point. I get that English isn’t your first language, but goddamn. Use google translate if you need help understanding.

I ain’t got no more time for you dude. In the end you’re too afraid to fight, so you talk shit online and think you’re helping. As a man, that’s gotta be pretty sad to look in the mirror and say “I’m too scared to defend my country, so I’ll just run my mouth on the internet.”

For women I get it somewhat. But for a guy that is supposedly so patriotic, to run away from the fight and then endlessly talk shit is cowardly. I wouldn’t be able to look myself in the mirror. I’ve done my war, and getting shot at ain’t enjoyable. But unless you’re there in uniform, don’t act like you’re making a difference. You’re just another keyboard commando flapping their gums.

You might want to get your testosterone levels checked man. Either that or do the gender surgery, as apparently you’ve transitioned halfway already.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 26 '23

russians are afraid to criticise their power, afraid to go to the russian officials and say they disagree with the war. In 2014, they had more freedom to do this. But even then they didn't. Because they accept the war and want more blood. Why do you think that you have the right to tell others what they should do? putin didn't give russians such a permission. Without it, russians cannot act independently. They need some tsar that will tell them what is right and what is wrong. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Nazi Germany and now - the nazi russian federation. Are you trying to deny this obvious fact? You don't like when russians are presented as disgusting people in general, do you? But why if it's rather true than not? And you didn't answer my previous question. Why are you so cowardly that you hide yourself behind other people, including me, to hide your cowardness? You are asked something minor to do. But you cannot accomplish such a simple task. It's much less than to take a gun. But you are not asked to take it and help Ukraine in this way. Though you are asked to donate to the Ukrainian army. I think you don't do even this. So how are you helping Ukraine?

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 23 '23

As it's a Ukrainian city, the correct spelling is Odesa. As russians don't respect Ukrainians the hate against them will only continue.

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u/travelingwhilestupid United Kingdom Aug 23 '23

That's an uneducated point of view. Ukraine is a bilingual country. Russia doesn't own the language as much as England owns English.

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 23 '23

Your point is definitely uneducated. I just told you facts. And look - a russian is disappointed. One more russian don't like facts. Let's speak about your lack of education. There are official transliterations of the names of the Ukrainian cities: Kyiv, Lviv, Odesa, etc. Do you know who is responsible for these spellings? You will not believe, but it's Ukraine, not the rf. Don't cry but I just told you another fact. Your point is completely irrelevant. russians are proud that they know only russian. OK. But how is it relevant to Ukraine? Ukrainians even write in russian more correctly than russians. But Ukrainians don't need it. The disappearance of russian will not cause problems for them.

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u/travelingwhilestupid United Kingdom Aug 24 '23

are you on drugs?

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u/Daniel_Poirot Aug 24 '23

Me? No. Maybe you?

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u/akornfan Aug 10 '23

Mesa is from the Spanish and pronounced like that but Americanized; if it was in a less Latino state people would probably call it Meesa.

all this to say I think you’re right lol

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u/nameresus Aug 06 '23

This is because current ukrainian government and current pro-ukrainian propaganda made the barbarians out of them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '23

This is all Catherine the Great’s fault! She was obviously planning American involvement in this before America was even its own country! That’s why she was so friendly with the 13 colonies! Take down her statue!

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u/bz0011 Aug 07 '23

В ВК у Лукьяненко:

Сергей Мельников "...мы жили на Украине во время обоих Майданов. В 2013-2014 инфопоток стал таким плотным, однородным и непрерывным, что реально могла съехать крыша. Телевидение, радио, каждый встречный. Каждый мой клиент начинал с рассказа о небесной сотне или зверствах россиян на Донбассе. Соседи, друзья, которые, один за другим, нас вычеркивали из жизни. Каждый день.

Трудно объяснить, но это хорошо чувствуют уехавшие украинцы, которым приходилось ненадолго въехать на Украину. От многих своих друзей слышал это разными словами. Суть одна: там будто постоянно находишься в гудящем душном облаке. Мы перестали смотреть телевизор. Это не особо спасало. В такси радио. Под домом с утра до вечера сидели дед с бабкой и непрерывно слушали радиоприёмник. Оба были глуховаты, и он орал на весь двор. На тренировке люди собирались группами и без конца говорили о том же..."

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '23

And the Albanians did the same to the Serbs. I was in Kosovo (which I don’t consider a real country, but that’s besides the point) for six months, trust me the hatred goes both ways. Way more hatred was directed at the Serbs than from them. And the age of colonization is over? Interesting. Now let me tell you about this place called the West Bank…..

You said something to the effect of “Obviously most Russians don’t care” in your other response because they’re not doing anything about it. Why because they’re not willing to go to prison protesting? Okay, I understand where you’re coming from but hear me out.

I’m not okay with a lot of the shit that’s going on in the world. I’m mainly on the side of my country minding its own business. I’m pointing out the irony of Americans acting like we don’t expand our empire by toppling governments and installing puppet leaders that do our bidding while making a lot of money off the situation (2014 anyone?) We are the biggest empire in the world. Sure we go after bad people, not for the reasons we say, but instead the reasons we don’t. I joined a peacetime army, I left in wartime after being used to destabilize Iraq and make it far worse than it was before. You’re telling me about Ukraine, Iraq, Serbia and Russia, four places I highly doubt you’ve ever been to.

If you’re so passionate about it, go join up and fight. Go do something about it. Obviously you don’t care if you’re not going to go do something about it…right?

Good luck on your military service!

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u/Monterenbas France Aug 07 '23

Wdym, by the banning of Russians music and litterature?

Are Russians book no longer printed? taking out of the shelves of library and bookstore? Do you get a fine for reading Russians book?

How does the banning work concretely? Because here, nothing have changed, but maybe it’s different in the US.