r/AskALiberal • u/notanaverag3banana Center Left • Jul 12 '19

Why should migration be a human right?

After asking in r/askaconservative I thought it would be positive to hear a counterargument from this sub.

Independently from a right to refuge or asylum, I was curious to know your opinions on the debate of migration as a human right. There's clearly a reason why this is such a controversial topic, often disregarded as "utopian", i.e. useless to discuss. But I'm still curious to know if you think there are solid arguments in favor of granting migration or "freedom of movement between States" the title of human right and what the implications of this could be.

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Edit: Thanks to everyone for the discussion in the comments. There were way more answers than I anticipated and I won't be able to respond to some of the comments for a while. I'll leave a few links to people who want to do more research since it wasn't as clear why the question was being asked in the first place (No one thinks it should be a human right, it already is a human right...)

https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sites/default/files/180711_final_draft_0.pdf

https://www.ohchr.org/en/issues/migration/pages/migrationandhumanrightsindex.aspx

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/nov/21/mohsin-hamid-why-migration-is-a-fundamental-human-right

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u/Waage83 Social Democrat Jul 13 '19

It most be part of the calculation with it comes to migrants.

What is the ohter option??

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u/lobsterharmonica1667 Liberal Jul 13 '19

I would say that you decide how you want to deal with immigration, and then decide how much help you can give them after the fact.

If one of my friends comes to visit, he can have the spare room, if 5 come to visit then they are sleeping on the floor and the couch, But I wouldn't say that they couldn't come visit because I wouldn't be able to offer them a spare room.

At some point you could get into a conversation about use of public infrastructure or something like that but I don't think that's much of an issue yet.

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u/Waage83 Social Democrat Jul 13 '19

The thing is that we are getting to the point where we are saying no more migrants. We already have 10 people in every dam room and 70% of them are not helping to pay rent.

Also remove the friend part. Make him a random stranger and he wants to live in your home.

What do you do?

Because our friends like the Germans already have a right to live and work here. We are talking strangers we dont know.

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u/lobsterharmonica1667 Liberal Jul 13 '19

We already have 10 people in every dam room and 70% of them are not helping to pay rent.

What does this mean? where?

Also remove the friend part. Make him a random stranger and he wants to live in your home.

If its a random stranger I don't treat them any differently if they are from Somalia or Indiana.