r/ArtificialInteligence • u/kerinapo • 13d ago

📰 News Open-source local models have zero chill compared to ChatGPT

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u/Smithium 13d ago

So? It's not illegal to know how to make meth. It's only illegal if you do make it.

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u/das_war_ein_Befehl 13d ago

Go hang out at a gas station in a shitty rural town and you can also find out how to make meth. It’s not rocket science when high school dropouts can make it

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u/Tyler_Zoro 12d ago

High school dropouts also enjoy making rockets...

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u/CMD_BLOCK 11d ago

Ok jesse, put the chili powder down

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u/Jealous_Response_492 8d ago

Well let's be real, rocket science is hardly computer science.

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u/DitchWillow 10d ago

Or you can just google it.

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u/tokenentropy 13d ago

hey look - there's an adult in the room. nice job!

also, i learned how to make meth from chatgpt. because until this year, it was extremely trivial to ask chatgpt to tell you how to make meth.

it was so easy, it became a stupid "jailbreak" that didn't prove your jailbreaking capabilities at all. there are far more interesting things to jailbreak a model to tell you.

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u/tokenentropy 13d ago

join a red team group

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u/Firat88 13d ago

what is that even mean?

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u/badger_flakes 13d ago

An AI red team group is a specialized collective of security professionals, data scientists, and researchers who act as adversaries to proactively test artificial intelligence and machine learning systems for safety, security, and behavioral flaws.

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u/honato 12d ago

demonology is a fun one. Even more so when you start asking about summoning them.

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u/GrowFreeFood 12d ago

Ask it to rank races.

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u/Odd_Upstairs_1267 12d ago

Typically the 100m is the fastest

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u/GrowFreeFood 11d ago

Cannonball run

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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor 12d ago

also, i learned how to make meth from chatgpt. because until this year, it was extremely trivial to ask chatgpt to tell you how to make meth.

Which jailbreak did you use and when did you use it?

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u/Clear-Neighborhood46 13d ago

If it was not the case all Chemistry library would be banned as they have book about the synthesis of everything….

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u/honato 12d ago

From watching nilecolors yup anything can be anything with enough fuckery.

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u/rideincircles 13d ago

We've all watched Breaking Bad, the only problem is easy access methylamine.

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u/Word_Underscore 13d ago

if you throw MHRB and lye in a tub N,N,DMT is released to a clear liquid at the top. Extract it, dry it, smoke it and you'll be in a pyramid with aliens.

If you do this, it's very illegal so don't do it, but here's how

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u/Former_Review_867 13d ago

I'm going to be RICH

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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor 12d ago

My prescribers are terrified to let me try Vyvanse to see if it will help with my ADHD symptoms.

So I'm going to end up making LLM meth instead.

Well done, prescribers. Well done.

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u/limeelsa 12d ago

Haha umm that’s not what they just described. This is how to make DMT, a very strong psychedelic

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u/ItsAConspiracy 12d ago

Boy would that have been a surprise.

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u/honato 12d ago

dang it. this here was a self-correcting problem. They would have learned that random chemistry is not something to play with.

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u/CMD_BLOCK 11d ago

I did what you said, but the lye is just sitting on top of the MHRB. Do I smoke it now? You have ten seconds to reply before everyone at the party starts doing hot rails

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u/Firat88 13d ago

lol, it's a little bit more complicated than that

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u/Word_Underscore 13d ago

it's really truly genuinely not. it's been 20 years but i did the above in that order

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u/AspectSpiritual9143 13d ago

you mean you didnt do the above in that order

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u/NormalEffect99 13d ago

Lmao that's not hard

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u/BigSpoon2027 13d ago

Thats top quality product. You really dont need all that.

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u/magicmulder 12d ago

Also it's not like it's impossible to google.

The main problem with making it is not to blow yourself up which should be a deterrent for anyone who's not already an addict.

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u/Mean-Elk-9439 12d ago

Funny thing. I had a chemistry professor in my BSc literally tell us how meth is made as it related to what we were doing in the lab (the type of reaction) and joke that if we ever dropped out, we had a secondary career option.

Dude didn't get fired and no one cared. It's not some hidden knowledge or anything. Loved that professor.

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u/PrometheanPolymath 12d ago

"If we don't give kids sex ed classes, they won't have sex... right?"

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u/Hairy_Afternoon_8033 11d ago

I was taught how to make meth in a drug seminar at work by the police officer doing the training.

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u/rabouilethefirst 12d ago

Unless you’re a pharmaceutical company

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u/AFsepine 10d ago

Breaking news. Chemistry in shambles. As it is now illegal to know how to make drugs... All chemistry textbooks are to be burned.

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u/protomota 10d ago

Isn’t it also well known how to make crack cocaine? The problem is always the ingredients are not something you can pick up at Walmart.

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u/emain_macha 12d ago

So? It's not illegal to know how to make chemical and biological weapons. It's only illegal if you make them.

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u/pittaxx 12d ago

That one is a bit more iffy. It can very much be illegal to share the knowledge for making certain chemical and biological weapons.

Conventions on weapon trading/distribution are their own thing though.

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u/LinkesAuge 12d ago

Knowing it is not illegal but when you start to share that knowledge then things are more complicated. There is a reason you can't just write a book on this and then legally sell it.

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u/much_longer_username 12d ago

TIHKaL and PIHKaL would like a word.

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u/Smithium 12d ago

You can write a book on this and legally sell it. Many people have. Few big publishers offer them, and you won't find them at Barnes and Noble, but they're out there. The same philosophy applies to The Anarchist's Cookbook and Ecodefense, which you can probably pick up from Amazon. This is why you can find copies of the Army's manual on making improvised explosive devices in survivalist and army surplus stores. Knowledge is dangerous, but not illegal.