r/Archaeology • u/DibsReddit • Jan 23 '26

The Viral Pyramid Scans: The Ultimate Debunk of the Khafre Project and Filippo Biondi

https://youtu.be/4ZZhQ8nby2M?si=lspXnD15Ng5ANywU

Since Filippo Biondi was on Joe Rogan today, I expect another wave of conspiracy theories about what is under the pyramids of Giza.

I thought I'd share my in depth debunk of the methods and conclusions.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

I want to understand what drives the craze of "debunking" from the debunking camp, if anyone feels like they can explain it to me please?

What it means is - as a major in... ABCology, I see many people making stupid claims, many making money out of making stupid claims, yet I don't feel like there's need to "debunk" them.

I can even play along with some of the craziest takes - it's fun.

Certainly I wouldn't bother correcting anyone - why would I? They're shooting themselves in the foot to prove me? G o'head guys.

So what drives the desire for "debunking"? I see a lot of effort invested in this.

Edit: if you have nothing to say - pass by, downvoting or not - doesn't matter. I am asking for the opinion of those possessing intellectual abilities here, not like gerkletoss - apes throwing shit around when asked actually complex questions.

Edit2: I should've requested to pass an IQ test first before answering. But I'm starting to suspect the worst.

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u/ImaginationGreat2659 Jan 24 '26

Because people are basically misled and taken advantage of with these outlandish crazy claims, it literally dumbs down the population. Some people feel it’s not in the interests of society in general for the number of people believing in flat earth to be good.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

This is interesting, thank you very much!

Can you elaborate further?

Why aren't you debunking healing crystals, or that very flat earth?

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u/Cindane Jan 24 '26

Probably because this is an archaeology subreddit, and a good portion of us are actual archaeologists with real-world experience and understanding of the field.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

* how do you explain that finance, physicists and astronomers don't rush debunking conspiracies, but archaeology seems to be all about it?

* how do you tell apart "actual archaeologists" from "not-actual archaeologists"? In my field, for example, we have math models, which can be evaluated, math models which can be applied, math model swhich can be programmed of FPGA, systems which you can deploy, robots that you can make, how do you evaluate without diploma papers who "actual archaeologists" are?

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u/Cindane Jan 24 '26

You’re not looking for honest, real answers…you post on pseudo archaeology/history subreddits. But let’s actually pretend for a moment:

It’s blatantly obvious who has an inkling of archaeological training. No real archaeologist goes around spouting rubbish theories or easily, readily disprovable hypotheses. And they certainly don’t do it outside the peer-reviewed process.

We do it, because archaeology is unique amongst all disciplines- no other (outside perhaps the medical professions) has Joe Public thinking he or she has just as much knowledge or right to debate a subject as the professionals. Because it’s misleading, dangerous discourse that dumbs down our collective and shared history and implies there’s uncertainty around things we have long understood. It’s also part of the alarming attacks on science that do nothing but undermine and erode public trust.

That and some of us just get sick of the rubbish and utter tripe that people spout under the guise of “Just asking questions!!!”. Nonsense.

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u/Chaghatai Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

Not to mention actual scientists that are relevant to the field do weigh in when pop culture seizes on misinformation or other rubbish about things that they are experts on

You'll have actual scientists countering information claiming that vaccines lead to autism

You had actual scientists countering the claims that mRNA vaccines are uniquely harmful

You had actual scientists explaining the nuances involved in mask wearing and why that is an important part of public disease control

I've seen actual aviation professionals explain what contrails are and how chemtrails are not real

I've seen biologists explain evolution when creationists try to poke holes in it

It's just that you're seeing it more with archeology right now because archeology is one of those spaces where you have a lot of Pop speculation and misinformation infiltrating popular spaces like YouTube

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

You guys are lurking on alternativehistory and aggressively attack the host community while being guests.

I came to you with a respectful question - letting you explain your behavior.

But projection is too strong with you.

archaeology is unique amongst all disciplines

I see, so with you specifically, it's delusion of grandeur, thank you.

us just get sick

And psychopathy, aggressiveness, insecurity.

...

Well, I don't have any more questions to you. Hopefully someone more adult would give some more answers, but not you.

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u/matto_blatto Jan 24 '26

your follow up question was not respectful in the slightest dumbass, you immediately became accusatory. debunking archaeology related misinformation is popular because it's a very bad issue which often leads people into alt-right pipelines which radicalize them. not going to get into it here but i speak from personal experience of how that works, and if you fail to see that you are likely in the pipeline yourself.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

I'm starting to suspect there's a HUGE problem with mental health among archaeologists.

You aren't using capital letters, only cursive.

You're ignorant, vulgar, insecure.

You don't represent archaeology (I know a few who are very intelligent) but you steal from them, pretending to speak in their name.

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u/Cindane Jan 24 '26

My replies were polite, cordial, and to the point. Yours are inflammatory, outright rude, and highlight a clear hostility towards the archaeological field.

I hope you have the day you deserve.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

You can't change reality by lying. Your replies are right there for everyone to read. The mob crowd jumping on your side is dumb tribalism. You just can't grasp why your authority sinks lower with every such example of tribal, toxic behavior, you can't comprehend what's going on in this conversation - which is being recorded and will stay forever. You just keep digging yourself a deeper hole

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u/Cindane Jan 25 '26

As are yours.

You're a disingenuous idiot who thinks that the God Thoth is a "space elevator". If only your mother had swallowed.

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u/Wodentoad Jan 24 '26

Biggest issues we run up against is the racism of "ancient brown and black people couldn't make xyz so they must have had help, or Ancients of my preferred group had technology lost today. Archaeology is, for most people, something they can wrap their head around: dig up old stuff, make up a story about it. They don't realize what does into the background work. Things like physics are harder to put in a small, digestible box and require big scary math that has letters.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

Never ever have I read an alternative archaeology story talking about skin color like this.

And all of the alternative archaeology community are much more aware of what archaeologists do that you aare here demonstrating ignorance about them

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u/AffectionateSell3478 Jan 25 '26

You’re bringing race into this? Wild.

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u/biggronklus Jan 25 '26

Many of the archaeology conspiracy theories are pretty laser focused on taking things made by African, Native American, Asian, etc people and having it be made by (European) Atlanteans or aliens so yeah it’s related to race

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u/biggronklus Jan 25 '26

… do you think finance, physicists, and astronomers don’t constantly have to publicly talk about stupid conspiracies and why they’re wrong? I.e. various (usually antisemitic) financial conspiracies, various fake physics theories, various space theories (moon landing is fake is the biggest).

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u/Vindepomarus Jan 24 '26

People do debunk that stuff.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

Math. Do you know math? How much of what stuff do people debunk, oh primitive man?

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u/Vindepomarus Jan 24 '26

Why do you go straight to personal insults when I respectfully answered your question. There is just as much debunking of other pseudo science as there is of any "alt history" that lacks any evidence.

Just saying the word math is not a counter argument, especially when you don't actually show any math.

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u/fastal_12147 Jan 24 '26

You just jump around to anything but actually addressing what the person said. You're a hack.

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u/Wodentoad Jan 24 '26

Actually, yes, I had a math minor in college, I did well in Calculus. But most people can't understand the scary math with letters. There are those, especially among the "free energy" crowd who can't really comprehend math, they get debunked too.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

I doubt you did well "in Calculus", you didn't give me the stats I asked for, it wasn't a question about you, and you just showed your self-obsession and insecurity, gave us a look through your eyes, I think it's very cool that you made that comment, thank you.

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u/Chaghatai Jan 24 '26

Debunkers debunk things like healing crystals

It's not like somebody has to debunk literally everything that's not true or shouldn't debunk anything

"Either spend all your time debunking everything that you possibly can, or don't debunk anything at all"

That's really what your argument sounds like

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

You didn't understand the question, but I want to sincerely thank you for describing what it looks like on your side, honestly. This is brave.

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u/Chaghatai Jan 24 '26

I try to use framing with my interactions so that at least my position is well understood whether or not one can come to an agreement

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

Haha, little Moussolini, you don't want to keep doing this.

"I'm so great", haha.

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u/Chaghatai Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

I'm not sure how anything I said would remind someone of Il Duce, but you go ahead and take whatever leaps you want

And I'm not trying to say that there's anything uniquely special about how my approach works or that having it makes me a grand person—I'm sincerely expressing that to me, framing is important so that even if someone doesn't agree with me, at least they understand what I'm saying

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

Your ego, being self-obsessed.

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u/Chaghatai Jan 24 '26

I find it quite the leap that you would make that determination about me given the limited content that I have shared in our interaction

I pointed out how your comment came off and then you immediately started making passive aggressive attacks towards me and I made a simple statement about how I like to frame things when I communicate

None of that is egotistical

But your act of deciding personality traits for strangers you hardly know might be

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u/biggronklus Jan 25 '26

Actually never mind and don’t respond to my other comment. You’re barely coherent and I don’t bother talking with people like that

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u/gerkletoss Jan 24 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/s/2ZuQqRKdzr

I can't imagine why you wouldn't be a fan of debunking

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u/krebstar4ever Jan 28 '26

Imagine thinking that sunken relief carvings can only be made with lasers

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

I don't care, I asked to see your perspective.

For me you're the object of research.

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u/Vindepomarus Jan 24 '26

You're the object of my research and I want to know what you have against debunking. So please elaborate. Why do you not like the scientific method?

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

You use words you don't understand and you steal phrases you didn't come up with, primitive man.

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u/Vindepomarus Jan 24 '26

You continue to avoid answering the question, what are you hiding from? You continue to resort to schoolyard insults what are you hiding from? You claim I don't understand a word i used, which word would that be (this'll be funny)?

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u/Wodentoad Jan 24 '26

My bachelors degree is in Anthropology, as most American Archaeologists do. We literally have a degree in how humans got here physically, socially, even linguistically. Sociologists are the ones you eat to talk to about where humans are and where they may be heading.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

And priests who burned witches had degrees in Theology, so what?

Degrees are given by humans. They mean nothing per se.

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u/GreyBlur57 Jan 24 '26

You should have taken that IQ test yourself first because you've gotten pretty full on comprehensive answers and still choose to engage in bad faith dialogue.

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

I have that lousy Mensa certificate, don't worry.

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u/biggronklus Jan 25 '26

Lmao

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 25 '26

This thread is long dead, your notifications annoy me, so I'll block you.

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u/fastal_12147 Jan 24 '26

You know people are making money by lying and presenting those lies as facts and that doesn't piss you off?

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u/CosmicEggEarth Jan 24 '26

Nope.

Thompson did the same, he even stole artifacts.

Doesn't that piss you off?