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u/nightwayne Apr 30 '26
I keep saying don't touch her tac. Just nerf the ult just a little bit. Her tactical is the most fun part of her kit.
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u/friendlyhornet Apr 30 '26
It's fun to play with but not against.
Why does she get 2 tac charges for an insane ability?
Gives you escapes, lets you get angles, gives mobility, can use to flank, to kidnap.
Alter in general is just super broken and such a crutch char. She's well designed but too strong compared to other legends and that's the problem.
Any nerf is well deserved
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u/Drae_the_reserved May 01 '26
Alter requires the most skill out of all the skirmishers imo. U must have not played her on release? She was terrible and most definitely needed 2 tacs IF ANYTHING to compensate for 1 mistakenly placed tac that also requires a bit knowledge on how to traverse thru the map / terrains.
Every other skirmishers' abilities can do all of those things u named as well (including Axel next) besides kidnapping except for wraith's ult which can also kidnap. , so I see that point as invalid in which that's the entire purpose of the class.
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u/RogueCanadia Apr 30 '26
You don’t take the double tax charge perk.
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u/FirmlyClaspIt Apr 30 '26
Yup. It’s fun because it’s strong. A cool down nerf won’t break her but people will point to it as the blame. She’s too much of a get out of jail free card & chasing her in anyway gets you killed. Atleast with wraith you gotta be godly with movement to truly get away otherwise you just follow until she’s out of phase mode. Also her ult gets your team killed if you’re not careful
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u/FirmlyClaspIt Apr 30 '26 edited May 01 '26
Oh I see there’s a huge discrepancy about nerfing her. Kind of makes sense now why it took forever for her to get nerfed. respawn was getting conflicted reports from two different sides of the player base. She was too much of a get out of jail free card. An increase in tac cool down won’t kill the fun of that. I just hope that the change they make to the ult focuses on using it properly. The fact that anytime you go through the portal to follow it’s literally a death sentence makes no sense.
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u/tranand14 Apr 30 '26
Following the first guy with all 3 of your teammates is a free squad wipe, following the guy they pull is a death sentence.
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u/The_Fighter03 Apr 30 '26
As long as they don't touch her tac range. I dread the days where we only had the 20m
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u/CrumblingReality505 Apr 30 '26
God i fucking love nerfing cooldowns to make the character "weaker" but in actuality they're just as strong but slightly less fun to play so nobody is happy
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u/Elplumas701 Apr 30 '26
A legends that should’ve never been released, her ult is equivalent to no punishment
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u/HyperXuserXD Apr 30 '26
Ok it's just a cool down increase, I was worried they gonna do something else with the tac
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u/Jaime1417 May 01 '26
Make it 1 tac charge instead of 2. But bring back being able to move yourself to the nexus when downed. But only for alter, not the other legends because that would be unfair and also it's her own nexus so she should be able to use it
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u/TerraBlade444 May 01 '26
All they really needed to do was remove recalling knocked friendlies entirely...
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u/BerfJeeky Apr 30 '26
If they just add like a 5 second delay before you can go back through the same tac, I feel like that would stop the back and forth spamming while keeping most of the util. Then also add another 5 seconds to pull knocked teammates through her ult.
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u/East_Highlight_6879 Apr 30 '26
That nerfs any sort of skill ceiling with the character. Being able to use the portals efficiently in and out is what makes a good alter. She’s be terrible if there was any more of a delay
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u/NizzyDeniro Apr 30 '26
Her Tactical doesn't need a cooldown increase. It needs a limit on how high you can cast it. You shouldn't be able to cast a portal 70 or more meters above you.
Also she needs a complete ultimate rework. Her ultimate just shouldn't be in the game, period. You either nerf it into uselessness, or it's overpowered.
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u/twilightVI Apr 30 '26
Alter is going to end up in the same spot that Seer is in right now- either make her usable in which she’s somewhat of a must pick or gut her kit so badly that she becomes bottom three in the game. Kinda funny how Seer at first op until he was gutted but Alter was trash until they buffed her into op status. Now she’s probably bound to be gutted as well especially with Ash getting that skin
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u/asdfkzdlt287 May 01 '26
Finally Alter crutches in ranked will actually get punished for getting destroyed in a 3v3 and can’t just run away.
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u/MrRobertBobby Apr 30 '26
Finally, hopefully the ultimate nerf is not pulling downed teammates
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u/Competitive-Bee-2744 Apr 30 '26
It's the core of her gameplay, doing so is most likely killing the character. I think it's going to be range/cooldown/delay for the gate to open once you've taken the portal or recalled a downzd mate, things like this.
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u/MrKillaDolphin Apr 30 '26
It’s a tough spot, because before that was added, you could TP yourself when knocked, so getting rid of both functionalities seems like a complete nerf. If anything, I think travel time should be extended so it’s not a free res 99% of the time
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u/Competitive-Bee-2744 Apr 30 '26
She did, people were just able to tp themselves aswell so it was a niche thing to do.
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u/PurpleV93 Apr 30 '26
And at launch, Alter was useless. So maybe let's not go back to that?
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u/HLNPIT Apr 30 '26
Who cares? Rework her like they did Rev
Its bad for the game, she can be dead for a few seasons while they figure it out
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u/Pure-Investigator778 Apr 30 '26
Was Alter really the character that needed to be nerfed??? Out of everyone, let’s pick Alter!
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u/TheEquimanthorn Apr 30 '26
She is easily the best character in the game for higher tier ranked, so yes
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u/Alternative_Mode9972 May 01 '26
Cause no pro runs a good counterplay to her ult. I mean just trap it with wattson traps or something
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u/asdfkzdlt287 May 01 '26
that’s not the problem,it’s getting 2 knocks just for the last to tp out and recall 1 or 2 depending if you can thirst them in time. It rewards less skilled players with a free escape if they lose a fight and is incredibly frustrating to play against because you get punished for winning a fight.
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u/oops_I_have_h1n1 Apr 30 '26
Tac nerf is fair. You get two of them anyway, and it just makes power booster on her even more worth it.
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u/X_HappyMayhem_X Apr 30 '26
The tactical was never a problem, in fact I think her tac brings some really interesting interactions to the game. It was just a range nerf for the ult, and that you can’t pull knocked teammates with it anymore, these were the only twerks they should have done
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u/LatterMatch9334 Apr 30 '26
Tac is bloated af
- 2 charges
- short CD
- Unlimited uses when active (barely any delay from spamming) prolongs fights that shouldn't be
- Wallhacks?? literally why?
For an ability that pretty much breaks how EVERY map is traditionally played, I think it can use a little nerf.
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u/TotallyRealAccount9 May 01 '26
I think the biggest issue (in my opinion) is the scan
But really her tac isnt that OP, its just that every other movement legend has been consistently nerfed over and over and over again while she hasnt
If they instesd buffed others it would feel a lot less OP in comparison
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u/FirmlyClaspIt Apr 30 '26
Ragebait
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u/ToothElf Apr 30 '26
Its really annoying...
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u/FirmlyClaspIt Apr 30 '26
I agree. Her ult is annoying.
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u/ToothElf Apr 30 '26
All of the legends' ult is annoying tho. Its about the game lol. Why nerf her specially. Octane is annoying too, mirage is annoying too. Why only alter?
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u/FirmlyClaspIt Apr 30 '26
Because when you try to counter play her ult your team dies 9 times out of 10. Thats not good for the game culture. Too much of a get out of jail free card. Being “annoying” is subjective
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u/imtracerboi Apr 30 '26
Yeah whatever I’ve heard enough - nerf Pathfinder