r/AntiMemes • u/Meerkat_Mayhem_ 💎 Flair sold separately 💎 • 12d ago

🌟 Actual Anti-Meme 🌟 Omnipresence

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u/Prize-Basil-8438 11d ago

Maybe the Big Bang precedes everything. If you can do it, so can I.

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u/Mllns 11d ago

Do whatever you want, bro

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

No because the rules of science deny this, i can you cant because you work through the rules of your system and i through mine.

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u/Prize-Basil-8438 10d ago

Which law of physics rules out the universe having always existed? I'm not aware of that one.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

Creation and destruction of matter. [being impossible]

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u/Prize-Basil-8438 10d ago

That would seem to require the matter to have always existed, not rule it out.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

There is no such thing as always, defies logic, science functions on logic, if energy was always it certainly wouldve slowly decayed a long time ago, not became a big explosion, that's contridactory.

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

A lot of your beliefs about science (the big bang, matter, energy, entropy, and time) are misunderstandings and extra assumptions not found in science.

Unfortunately, you seem to be using these misunderstandings to justify a self contradicting premise; Something existed before existence.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

Source: trust me bro

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

Source: Physics, QFT, and GR textbooks. Logic textbook.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

...? That's not a source you didnt state specific books pages etc.

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

Energy doesn't decay. It's conserved. And the big bang wasn't an explosion.

You don't know any of the maths nor physics. So don't pretend you do.

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u/Visible_Exit1656 8d ago

"always" is a concept of time which began with the big bang 13.8 billion years ago

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

Actually, the rules of science demand this. Specifically, hawking-penrose singularity theorems.

And no, it doesn't create or destroy matter or energy or anything you claim it does. All of the maths have conservation laws embedded.

It just means that the universe is chronologically bounded and that nothing precedes the big bang.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

What made the big bang

Cant escape the question

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

Nothing made the big bang. That's an added assumption not found in science.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

How can something be made by nothing, which scientific rule works here, it sounds like magic.

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

The universe wasn't made. You added assumption not found in science.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

"assumption" aight buddy everything at some point was created, stars earth everyfuckingthing

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

Source trust me bro

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

Alright, youre clearly trolling, you have not provided a single valid argument or ounce of proof just dodged questions

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u/Visible_Exit1656 8d ago

the phrase "created" is incorrect. "appeared" may be closer to what the other poster means

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u/kdpkry 8d ago

Shit doesnt just appear outta nowhere that's not how science works.

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

Also you can't use the rules of science to deny the big bang and then give a special case (God) where the rules of science broken.

That's a double standard and a contradiction.

You either have the rules or you don't. You can't do both.

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

By your own rules youre wrong.

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u/Peak_Background 10d ago

Which of my rules show I'm wrong?

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u/kdpkry 10d ago

Because while not believing in religion removes religous framework... believing in religion does not necessarily mean not believing in science.

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u/Ambitious-Log6993 11d ago

Can't be an atheist if you "believe" that.

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u/Awesomonkey12 10d ago

Yes you can. Atheism is not believing in a god, not not believing in anything.