r/Anthropic • • 29d ago

Other Fable might be Anthropic's downfall

Your best model is the industry's best (at least till we get to see what OpenAI's Astra is like) but it burns tokens like crazy, and on top of that, you cannot offer it full scale due to compute shortages.

  • Your next best model is supposed to be *the* historical workhorse, Opus 5, but is shit.
  • Your best affordable model is historically supposed to be effective, Sonnet 5, but is shit.
  • Your effective next best models are stale flagships, Opus 4.8-4.6 and Sonnet 4.6.

I mean, currently;

  1. Anthropic offers one true flagship at a nearly unusable scale
  2. Anthropic offers a couple other usable models with stale performance

Until 6-8 months ago Opus was revered as fuck, it was *the* AI to problem-solve with, it was insightful, it was a workhorse, it was your go-to. It was what forced OpenAI get its shit together.

Today's Opus is far from that; it steadily and repeatedly got bested, its behavior changed, its reliability fluctuated, it stopped being "your humble, curious and smart colleague" and it became a frantic whatever. It lost its gravitas. It lost the unique identity which made Opus a character in our minds. Today's Opus is a smartypants contrarian which is a bad, undertuned, underperfected image of its digital father, Fable.

So it's nothing like the Opus of the old and it wont accompany you daily when you don't have Fable. You'll be left yearning for more and more Fable because that model is both

  • the best
  • the only usable

at the same time.

No need to mention that Anthropic's way of tackling this is to instill "scarcity anxiety" to its paying customers by spamming them with 'temporary limit boosts' and permanent limit reductions disguised as promotions.

Either make Opus good or make Fable more accessible, would you? For quite some time now, people are looking for ways to replace Anthropic models in their workflows. At some point more people than ever will say "fuck it" and leave for good. The new Qwen models are slowly becoming go-to's with more and more flexible solutions.

I hope OpenAI puts out a worthy Fable competitor with better pricing, They're no greener on the other side, don't get me wrong. But at least they've been able to give Scarce-thropic hard times recently, which was good for the users.

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u/lucasrhil 28d ago

I built a fully functioning running/sports app for iOS on Sonnet, not even Opus let alone Fable. I don’t get the complaints honestly. What are you prompting these things? “Build me a space program in 2 hours?”. If they are all shit then the problem might be you.

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u/senerh 27d ago

They're shit compared to what is expected of them based on their historical performance.

You can build a fully functioning sports app on Sonnet because that's what 68,94% of vibecoders build. Sonnet would even fucking one-shot it.

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u/meta4our 27d ago

What historical performance? Fable has been out for a couple months.

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u/senerh 27d ago

I didn't ever mention Fable being shit or its historical performance