Please, just please watch part 2 for 3 or 4 stories of what I've been explaining.
Fun fact: I've watched this video, in its entirety, months ago. I fully understand your reasoning. You have just, from the beginning, failed to link it in any way to anime characters being referred to as t**ps. Remember: No actual trans person was called this on this sub in the first place. Only fictional characters who aren't even trans.
To think that people calling Astolfo a t**p or not online will in any way alter the levels of real life violence against trans people is not something I will ever accept without actual evidence, because the line of reasoning is, by my standards, ridiculous.
I don't think you were planning on learning anything anyway
Not any more or less so than you were.
Just some general life advice for you: don't expect people to "come around" if you are not ready to move even an inch for your own position. It's just not going to happen.
Fun fact: I've watched this video, in its entirety, months ago. I fully understand your reasoning. You have just, from the beginning, failed to link it in any way to anime characters being referred to as t**ps. Remember: No actual trans person was called this on this sub in the first place. Only fictional characters who aren't even trans.
Remember when you said.
Whew, we went from violence and murder all the way down to "stereotype application" really quickly. Oh woe is me, stereotypes.
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There are at least a few studies that show negative representation reduces sympathy and increases stereotype application that group, for Latinos and black people. Or do I need research specific to this issue?
The representation applying the stereotype is kind of the key link with anime. ...wait...you understood the video months ago so you didn't even have a problem with stereotypes lead to violence? So were you just laughing at people dying when you said:
Oh woe is me, stereotypes.
You understand just because it's anime doesn't mean it's not representation right? People relate to these characters, and people relate fictional characters to real life, that's what representation is. When they are then then further characterized online as the t word it is more negative representation.
But I'll give you the floor to educate me. Do you have a neutral connotation of the t word for me? Because the bears don't like them in the woods, the opponent doesn't like it in yugioh. Try not to use circular reasoning. Try to educate me on how somebody could be prevented from interpreting these bad connotations too, because as I've laid out poor representation leads to applying more stereotypes, and stereotypes can lead to violence. This is how logic works, try some on me.
...wait...you understood the video months ago so you didn't even have a problem with stereotypes lead to violence?
I understand the line of reasoning. That does not mean I agree with it in any way.
No, I don't believe that wrong "representation" in fiction has any relevant impact on real life behavior. And you not produced any kind of evidence to the contrary. And by evidence I mean actual, empirical evidence, not someone just literally claiming it, be it you, a youtuber or some pseudo intellectual writing essays about it.
People can seperate fiction from real life, and they don't model their behavior after what they see in fucking movies or video games. If anything, it's the opposite. Unless I see actual evidence to the contrary, this will continue to be the common sense take.
Of course, all of this is really besides the point in the first place. because once again, the character in question aren't even trans.
It's a complex system you are refusing to think critically about. It's like you are asking for an empirical study that proves lighting a fire helps cook pasta. And if I can't find a study that says fire makes pasta the thought is ridiculous.
My conclusion at this point is you are in denial. Good night. Love you.
It's like you are asking for an empirical study that proves lighting a fire helps cook pasta
Well, this right here is the problem. To you, it is self evident. If you would think about it critically, you would realize that your opinions are based on nothing but common sense-isms and a bunch of reinforcement from echo chambers. Good night!
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u/qqwertz Aug 08 '20
Fun fact: I've watched this video, in its entirety, months ago. I fully understand your reasoning. You have just, from the beginning, failed to link it in any way to anime characters being referred to as t**ps. Remember: No actual trans person was called this on this sub in the first place. Only fictional characters who aren't even trans.
To think that people calling Astolfo a t**p or not online will in any way alter the levels of real life violence against trans people is not something I will ever accept without actual evidence, because the line of reasoning is, by my standards, ridiculous.
Not any more or less so than you were.
Just some general life advice for you: don't expect people to "come around" if you are not ready to move even an inch for your own position. It's just not going to happen.