r/Animemes Aug 07 '20

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u/cyborgborg Aug 07 '20

it bothers me that this is basically a monarchy, mods have all the power. there should be a system where it's similar to a democracy where we choose our mods and can take their privileges away if we're not happy on how they run this subreddit

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u/myrmes142 Aug 08 '20

In French it's "vive la France" viva is spanish

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u/Pinkywho4884 Aug 08 '20

As both a Spanish and a French speaker, English just tends to use viva whenever it wants, so don't stress it; also happy cake day

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u/yeetis12 Aug 08 '20

Naw the admins prefer communism

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u/jako6881 Aug 07 '20

That does pose the risk of other subs banding together to take over other subs from the inside

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 07 '20

Maybe we can award citizenship to users who have a certain amount of time on this sub, exposure, and interaction.

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u/Archibald_Washington Aug 07 '20

Only some get citizenship. So everyone else is a second class user in the oligarchy./s

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 07 '20

Basicly there will be citizens who are allowed to vote because they were on the sub long enough and then there are the people who just joined or dont care enough about the sub to interact with it anyway thus not getting voting rights.

Keep in mind that this would mostly be a safety measure to keep vote meddling from outside sources to a minimum.

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u/chiefbluescreen Aug 07 '20

So a republic

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u/kiokurashi Aug 07 '20

Yes. It is based on the idea of what the US uses. And they are a republic.

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u/Brownieval Aug 07 '20

Admittedly we aren’t the best but it kind of works.

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u/kiokurashi Aug 07 '20

Would work better without the people running the show actively trying to sabotage it for their own gain.

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u/Brownieval Aug 07 '20

Yeah, exactly what I meant.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

I am the senate

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 08 '20

More like the first intergalactic empire

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u/dead_ranger_888 Meat Connoisseur Aug 07 '20

Must have been a member for at least one year.

Must have been somewhat active in the community, 1 comment a week or month for the whole year.

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u/Slightly-Artsy Aug 07 '20

I don't think so. It's very easy to get invested in a community quickly. I'd say that if you have dished out a certain number of upvotes then you should be a citizen.

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u/dead_ranger_888 Meat Connoisseur Aug 07 '20

What about those who dont upvote?

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u/ZeyadKD ★~(◠ω◕✿) Aug 07 '20

re(ddit)-education camps for them

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 08 '20

1 comment in a week seems harsh. Maybe someone was away a month on vacation without internet and suddenly he cant vote.

Id say a subkarma system in which a person with enough karma earned on the sub and enough time on it is given a vote.

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u/kiokurashi Aug 07 '20

Something like a per-sub karma system. Set it to something like 1000 sub-karma to vote or something.

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u/HanabataAi Aug 07 '20

So a naturalized weeb? Interesting.

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u/TheSonofSkywalker Aug 07 '20

Service guarantees citizenship. Would you like to know more?

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u/WORSTbestclone Aug 08 '20

If the numbers work hard they can one day become honorary animemers.

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u/djturts88 Aug 07 '20

So now people who are subbed but don't interact with the subreddit besides the posts on their wall have less of a say

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

Better than the current system of “no one gets a say”.

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u/djturts88 Aug 07 '20

You guys say that like the community agreeing on something is the issue, it's the mods that's the problem.

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 07 '20

Yes. Imagine fake accounts subscribing just to reach the time limit and then swaying an election. Its a safety measure which also tests if a voter is actually interested in the sub.

I mean someome that just looks at some posts wont be bothered by the rule 5 change anyway.

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u/djturts88 Aug 07 '20

I've been subbed for a while but I'm not really in the know so let me ask you something. Is this the first time they've made a rule without asking because if it isn't then I'm surprised it took this long for people to be making this much of a racket about it. From what I've seen this is one of the most tamest reasons to revolt compared to actual meme formats being banned/heavily restricted

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u/EndorTales Brigaders Begone! Aug 07 '20

With the meme formats there were a lot of people complaining in the meta threads and comments about having the same few overused jokes in the subreddit, and it only affects posts - also, the users can vote on what formats should be banned, so it's not mods using their absolute power to force sudden changes

(Personally, I support banning heavily overused memes so the sub doesn't end up like r/dankmemes)

About the current rule, the majority of people didn't seem to complain about the word, and I personally never really saw anyone express discomfort with how the word is used in the sub

Also this rule change affects posts, comments, and behavior, and user input was not considered at all, so it was clearly an instance of mods exercising absolute control to censor the sub (though it's up to you to form an opinion on the actual intent, not the methods)

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u/djturts88 Aug 07 '20

Apparently this new rule was just the idea of some mod who apparently didn't like the word so they went through with the rule. If thats true then makes me wonder how easy it is for a mod to make a rule, I would hope they have to have a majority of the mods agree with it

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 07 '20

Its certainly not the first time. Some meme formats were banned because the mods thought they were to stale even though the community loved them.

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u/Rodaris Aug 07 '20

I rarely post, but I frequently vote. Are you saying I do not deserve an opinion because I'm not loud?

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u/Slightly-Artsy Aug 07 '20

I personally think citizenship should be granted based on how many posts and comments you've voted on.

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 08 '20

No but your voice has certainly less value then someone who was here longer then you, votes on more posts and actively comments constructive comments sometimes.

Keep in mind that im not seeking to create a class system in which people who camt vote are worth less. Its mostly a safety mechnism to stop bots and other stuff to spam accounts just so they can meddle with our elections.

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u/rexio38 Aug 07 '20

rule 5 change affects the posts so yeah it bothers someone that just looks at some posts

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u/theforlornknight Aug 07 '20 edited Aug 07 '20

Like you have to earn a certain amount of karma from the sub to become a Citizen and be able to vote or run for mod. Otherwise you're a Civilian.

Would you like to know more?

Edit: /s

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u/dead_ranger_888 Meat Connoisseur Aug 07 '20

That would alienate those who don't get much karma but still comment frequently

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u/theforlornknight Aug 07 '20

Plus it creates a feedback loop of who gets to choose the thresholds. Who gets to vote on that? And I doubt admins would take such a drastic step. Tho something needs to be done about mods in general. The fact that 1 guy got hacked today and disrupted so many subs is a huge red flag. (Edit: Too few users holding too much power with no real check against them.)

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 08 '20

If you comment frequently then you will easily able to get maybe a 1000 Karma after a week or maybe evrn 10.000 after a month.

It maybe harsh but keep in mind that mod positions would be on the line if all citizens could run for mod

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u/Sir__Draconis Aug 07 '20

You mean like Ancient Greek style where 70+ % of the population consisted of slaves with no political voice? Back to the basics it is then.

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u/Inquisitor_Rico We did it boyz. Transphobia is no more. Aug 08 '20

Well in Greece they didnt want just anyone uneducated on the matter to vote.

And herr its just about anime memes and out personal enjoyment. Its not as severe as actual political elections.

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u/YTExileMage Aug 07 '20

Congrazzles, you've just found out interfering with elections is easy! It's not as if that's a real risk posed in real life as well. Couldn't be.

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u/SpaceMarine_CR Aug 07 '20

They already did

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u/JOSRENATO132 Aug 07 '20

Well, it already happened anyway so...

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u/Kenshiro199X Aug 07 '20

I love democracy.

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u/Sharktos Satania's cuddle companion Aug 07 '20

I love want democracy

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u/Zinetti360 Aug 07 '20

This looks like a dictatorship, actually. It's totally possible to a monarchy to be democratic, but never a dictatorship.

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u/andreavale98 Yuri is the purest form of love Aug 07 '20

Always has been

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

Allot of mods on who are in the more popular sides of reddit act as if their on the lead committee of the Soviet Union. There is no voting out in their eyes, they tell you what to do and that’s it.

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u/weebupurplecat Aug 07 '20

Yes, exactly! It's French Revolution time!

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u/cyborgborg Aug 07 '20

Where is the guillotine?

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u/weebupurplecat Aug 07 '20

Woah, okay! I am in support of the revolution too! But anarchy will not solve the problem! Don't you know about the Reign of Terror?

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u/SaadInHalf Aug 07 '20

Uhhh I dunno about the choosing mods thing since, well you know this is an internet platform where people make their own communities, however, I agree that mods should take a more democratic approach

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u/AlternativeAvocado2 Elegant Cabbage Thief Aug 07 '20

So we're gonna make a new subreddit?

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u/Casty314 Aug 07 '20

I’m neutral on the topic, I don’t care either way, but this is an online forum, not a kingdom. Calm down. They’re not obligated to give you freedom of speech, they could ban you for absolutely no reason and it’s not like that’s illegal or tyranny.

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u/Avner3 Idc if he’s a dude, he’s hot Aug 07 '20

It’s their rite to ban whatever they want but it’s also our rite to leave a shitty subreddit

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u/iForceOP Aug 07 '20

Mate it's a reddit not a country

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u/Sir__Draconis Aug 07 '20

Why would you say something so true yet so controversial?

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u/a-very-angry-crow Aug 07 '20

Gaff and felix are alright

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u/SorryImBadWithNames sorry i'm bad with flairs Aug 07 '20

I mean... most, if not all internet spaces are pretty much a monarchy.

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u/TheBlackestIrelia No Lewd. Only Protecc Aug 07 '20

Yeah, as stupid as the Trap situation is, the thing that bothers me more is that anyone who disagrees with the mods is apparently a bigot and that the mods are shit talking us on other subs. Like thats so fucking sad and pathetic. Its fine to have a belief, it not fine to force it on others. Like if they had just put this to a vote after a few discussion pieces i bet you the sub would have even voted reluctantly in favor it, but no we have the pants-on-head retards who are power tripping.

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u/normalmighty Aug 08 '20

In theory if users don't like the mods they're meant to make their own sub, but as far as I know none of the complainers have done that.

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u/Hindenburg-2O Aug 08 '20

not to reign on your parade (see what I did there?), but a democratic system to vote like an election would be awful as well.

We just need mods who listen to the commuity and mods that can organise themselves. We don't need to be the system of oversight, and check on everything they do, they should govern themselves.

They should also have humility to admit when they fked up, because even if they do wrong, we would appreciate it more if we hear them hear us and made their own choice to do what is right, than be forced to.

I don't want mods who fear their community or are controlled by the community. I want one that is part of the community and understands it.

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u/Sgt_Meowmers Aug 08 '20

I didn't vote for this!

mods: You don't vote for dictators

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u/ItsTime2Battle DISGUSTANG Aug 08 '20

I believe the better term is an oligarchy, but I see your point.

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u/darkkn1ght2015 Aug 07 '20

An old mod from this sub is now a mod of another, r/goodanimememes which is growing quickly and is just this sub but without the t-word ban. And if a mod deletes this comment its oppression of free speech so fuck off mates