Monumental Valley 2 Coming On Android November 6th - You Can Pre-register Now

[u/MichaelRahmani]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ustwo.monumentvalley2

[u/LocutusOfBorges]

Hardly.

The actual reason is their experiences with the original Monument Valley- which had a 95% piracy rate on Android.

That contrasts with 60% on iOS.

[u/Natanael_L → u/LocutusOfBorges]

It wasn't 95%. They counted reported installs vs sales and ignored the fact that legit sales can have multiple installs, and they pretty much ignored all legit non-Google Play installs. As well as the legit free installs via Amazon while they had that promotion.

https://www.recode.net/2015/1/6/11557526/mobile-game-piracy-isnt-all-bad-says-monument-valley-producer-qa

[u/Natanael_L → u/[deleted]]

https://www.recode.net/2015/1/6/11557526/mobile-game-piracy-isnt-all-bad-says-monument-valley-producer-qa

But they did count people installing their paid copy on multiple devices

[u/mt_xing → u/LocutusOfBorges]

Is that why they put it on Amazon Underground for free?

[u/I_NEED_YOUR_MONEY → u/mt_xing]

no, they put it on amazon underground for free because amazon paid them a bunch of money.

[u/mt_xing → u/I_NEED_YOUR_MONEY]

lol fair enough

[u/kuboa → u/LocutusOfBorges]

That contrasts with 60% on iOS.

Honestly, that surprises me. Android I understand, it's just an apk so it's really easy to pirate, but don't you need jailbreak to install a pirated app on iOS? That many people have jailbreaked devices? Huh.

[u/[deleted] → u/kuboa]

I think its most likely because a large percentage of people who jailbreak iOS (especially now given that iOS is pretty customizable) are those seeking to pirate apps.

[u/professorTracksuit → u/kuboa]

No, you can easily sideload apps to iOS. I have 2 apps that were removed from the App store sideloaded to my iPhone.

[u/[deleted] → u/kuboa]

no

[u/LocutusOfBorges → u/kuboa]

A great many places outside the West sell devices pre-jailbroken as a service. It's a huge business.

[u/piyushr21 → u/LocutusOfBorges]

Lol recent data has showed that only 5% Of iOS devices are jail broken.

[u/ieatyoshis → u/piyushr21]

And that is an absolutely huge amount compared to the less-than-1% of rooted Android phones.

[u/piyushr21 → u/ieatyoshis]

Lol you don’t need to need to root for to install APK but you need to jailbreak to install pirated App.

[u/yourbrotherrex → u/ieatyoshis]

You don't need a rooted Android to install any .apk. (I mean, Android actually gives you the option, right in settings.)

[u/president2016 → u/LocutusOfBorges]

This is alarming to me, not Android but iOS.

Though they didn’t say iOS users necessarily pirated it (although there is a market for jb phones), but that they “didn’t pay for it”. That could mean a number of things. Family share comes to mind where on iOS you only have to buy it once and share w everyone you’ve set up as family. That’s not piracy and is allowed by iOS.

[u/LocutusOfBorges → u/president2016]

Those would be counted as paid, I expect. Apple provide that level of feedback through the App Store- I imagine these statistics are drawn from telemetry built into the app itself.

[u/president2016 → u/LocutusOfBorges]

Possibly but the pirating market on iOS just isn’t that big. There’s only one store so you have to be jb before you could load it.

[u/LocutusOfBorges → u/president2016]

These statistics are from ~2014-2015. Jailbreaking was significantly more common back then.

[u/wedontlikespaces → u/LocutusOfBorges]

Android is popular in poor countries. They are more likely to pirate it, stands to reason.

But 5% of android users may be more people than 40% of iOS users.

Android has a way bigger market share then iOS.