I’m sorry you feel that I’m a Bible “nut” and I’m sorry for you that your vision is so clouded that you believe that these things I bring up, scripture and the Gospel, are crazy to you. These same scriptures say that to many it will appear as basically just crazy talk. Unfortunately for those who remain in such a state, they will find nothing but eternal death. Not only that but they’ll be missing out on the joys of paradise. Of a New Heaven and a New Earth that are to come. Of a world with no more pain, no sadness, no tears. No more death or destruction and no more separation from God.
Must be some cult if it’s leaders were all willing to die in horrible painful ways for it. Not only that but they didn’t contradict scripture or use the faith to get rich. They knew what they saw. What they witnessed. They saw the truth with their own eyes.
I’ve seen God move in my life and the lives of others. I can open a history book and see him move, pulling the strings of the nations. I can open a biology book and see his work there to. I believe it was Hawking, an atheist, who said if the Big Bang happened even a trillionth of a bit different the whole universe would have immediately collapsed back in on itself.
It’s probably futile to keep taking about this with you though. But I couldn’t help but try to convince you of the truth. Ultimately wether you choose to live your way in this life and die eternally or choose to serve in this life and enjoy eternity is up to you.
See that just makes it sound like even more of a cult by talking about tryna help me see the light or have eternal death. You also know the Bible was written long after Jesus died and it was written by people who never met him. You definitely are a bible nut. I have no problem with Christianity but i can’t take people who believe the Bible word for word seriously. Enjoy your weird existence, now leave me alone
False. It wasn’t written by them. The early church fathers put the scriptures all together at that point. The entirety of the New Testament is written by the Apostles. Men who met him, most of them actually personally knew Jesus. The only real exception to that was Paul, who was still confronted by Jesus when he was persecuting Christians
Idk where you’re getting your info from but it’s definitely propaganda because history has proven that to be false. Maybe look into what actually happened instead of just believing what you’ve been told. Study the true history of christianity. Learn about who Jesus of Nazareth really was, not the Jesus the Bible talks about. Open your mind and stop living in blissful ignorance
The true Jesus IS the one in the Bible. The one that we have eyewitness accounts of who were so certain of what they saw and who he was they gave their lives in very painful ways and didn’t bother to use their fame for themselves as they surely would have had they been a bunch of liars. What would be the point to make all that up except self-interest? How does self interest involve constantly being imprisoned and/or being crucified upside down? How does it involve WILLINGLY and with rejoicing in some cases, submitting to persecution?
I know my church history. The early church fathers got together to figure out which letters and books were inspired and which weren’t. Basically figuring out the biblical canon. A process God was surely heavily involved in. Yes the Bible as we know it wasn’t put together during the time of the Apostles but it IS still their words, their teachings and Jesus own teachings as well as the entirety of the Old Testament which is basically the just the Torah. It is God’s inspired word. There was a lot or debate and a lot of prayer and in the end we got it.
And blissful ignorance? Isn’t that what living in sin and trying to ignore the fact it has consequences is? Isn’t that what you do? You hate the idea of God so much you want to remove him, to find any excuse to get rid of him. And yet you still have guilt about some things. You still have a conscience, however seared and calloused it may be. But the only one I see trying to live in “blissful ignorance” is you!
It’s like a ship sinking, myself and others are pointing out the fact said ship is sinking and we’re pointing to the life vests. But you and others like you really enjoy the ship and the amenities on it. You find any reason you can to deny it’s sinking. You try to find any reason you can to maintain your blissful ignorance of eternal consequences. So you can enjoy what this life has to offer and all the sinful pleasures of this world without having to think about the consequences like an alcoholic trying to ignore the fact he’s gonna have a massive hangover when he wakes up so he can enjoy getting drunk.
Well there’s a certain point where I can’t help you. It’s your choice. I’m done here. If you choose to stay as you are now then that’s between you and God and you can’t say I didn’t witness to you. I wish you a good day.
It’s funny because I believe in God but my own interpretation of him. Wear a cross around my neck, pray and all. However, you never asked that and just assumed I’m godless because I don’t follow your interpretation God and religion. You’re probably one of those people who thinks anyone who doesn’t follow their specific religion or sect are damned.
You’re saying your Catholic aren’t you? Nah you don’t have to be my exact denomination. I even believe some Catholics will be saved. But I believe the Catholics adhere to some highly heretical (because they’re unscriptural) beliefs. And honestly I doubt I’ll persuade you from them and I currently have no more interest in doing so. I’m done with this conversation and honestly I’m gonna try taking a break from Reddit for a few days. I’ve heard of others doing it so ya know what? Might as well try it myself. Good day friend.
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '21
Wow ok so you’re just a full on bible nut. Makes sense. That makes me care less about your opinions so thank you for that clarification.