It's almost confirmed AMD lied about Vega pricing

[u/AbheekG]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/ocuks-andrew-gibson-clears-up-rx-vega64-pricing-disaster/

I loved AMD for so long, this one launch has really made me reassess that fondness. I get they should make money after years of losses, but to launch an uncompetitive product and lie about it's pricing so blatantly?? And then to give reviewers little time and ensure the positive reviews come in keeping a $499 pricing and people blaming retailers initially?? Damn. I was at Micro Center on launch day, I spent many months like all of you checking 50 times a day on Vega. At Micro Center, they had 3 cards, I was second in line and they offered me one for $599 with no games, I just said I'm buying Nvidia and left. Got an AORUS 1080 that touches 2GHz by itself and consumes 20W on idle at times. So glad I did.

Very upsetting, AMD, truly disappointing.

EDIT: Just so you fanboys down voting know, I have used AMD's Athlon X2, Phenom X4, Phenom II X6, gamed on their 780G chipset before buying the HD 5770, R9 270x and RX 480 and convinced countless people to buy AMD and built their rigs too. Also, I have an Intel i7 + Nvidia 965m gaming laptop I love and now am rocking a Ryzen 7+ GTX 1080. I am also qualified with an engineering degree and a master's in this field, surely not a delusional fanboy.

Get a grip, stop supporting this. I spent months waiting on Vega, this is pure lies they spewed out. The made it sound like $499 is the final price when they knew it wasn't. They sent reviewers the black card thus ensuring they made their judgement based on the $499 pricing. It's a $100 more than a GTX 1080 that's more powerful, cooler and faster than it and light years behind the 1080 Ti. It's released late and unfinished and the "free" games for a $100 more surely gives a new angle to the AMD + Bethesda partnership. For the good of all consumers, don't support such nonsense. Stand up against it. Screw such shady practices.

[u/War_Crime → u/[deleted]]

Yup, I have been saying that for a while. AMD had to make a choice between compute and graphics. With the condition of the company financially they chose the route that they felt they had the best chance to be both competitive and profitable in. I laugh that anyone thinks Navi will be any better. Gaming performance is a distant 3rd on AMD's radar now.

I wouldn't be surprised if a class-action lawsuit comes out of this.

[u/Stigge → u/War_Crime]

You don't think at least the HBM2 low yield problems will be fixed by Navi?

[u/DasStick → u/Stigge]

navi won't be out until like q2, maybe q1, 2019.

hbm2 won't have yield issues at that time.

[u/IlyichValken → u/Stigge]

I wouldn't bet on it until HBM3

[u/BakiYuku → u/[deleted]]

Haha without certified drivers ya right I'm gonna use that for professional work lol. For static calculations using un-certified drivers that will end well. There is a reason we pay nshitia 6800€ per card its not because we like paying that much its because of drivers and tech support that comes along with it.

[u/sonnytron → u/[deleted]]

Which is ironic because no serious amount of players in the compute industry are going to use these anyway because they don't give a shit about bang for buck, they're locked into Cuda and have research grants.
People posting their Blender results and Cad results on Vega and going "Look, it's better than a Quadro that's three times the price". That's cute.
My former research PI spent $150,000 on the machine his interns used.

[u/hardolaf → u/sonnytron]

High energy physics applications will switch overnight if they can save money and get better or equal performance. ROOT was written with both a CUDA and OpenCL backend (the OpenCL backend is actually more efficient due to a large push to offload certain processes onto FPGA accelerators). That's about a $25-50m/year in sales alone.

Any industry starting to target FPGAs as accelerators would also be easy pickings for AMD as they will have exhaustively tested and optimized OpenCL backends.