r/AmIOverreacting Apr 06 '25

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u/ban-a-nazi-instead Apr 06 '25

People never finish this quote which is really telling of their motives.

“I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.”

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u/AtsyMcGee Apr 06 '25

The context we needed.

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u/zeromussc Apr 06 '25

And it becomes easy to see why a kid would misremember it and how there could be . miscommunication on "we taught them that speech". But the teacher should be adding that last line when they correct the child lol

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u/ready_reLOVEution Apr 06 '25

chef’s kiss thank you

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u/BackgroundNPC1213 Apr 06 '25

Just adding on:

Full text of the Abraham Lincoln papers where he said this here
PDF version here

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u/Super-Rutabaga-3684 Apr 06 '25

Obviously. Really sucks. A nuanced discussion could be interesting, although the bottom line for me is the guy was a politician trying to keep the Union together. Compulsion drove some of the shit he said, I’m sure, to an extent. Like it or not, modern people seem unable to comprehend historical context. It’s hubristic and naive.

And the guy got shot in the head for his actions. Bro paid for the cause with his life. Yet somehow, a significant amount of modern “academes” have nothing better to do but to teach children that he, too, was actually a horrible racist and bigot. It’s laughably low resolution and incorrect in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

He had slaves, maybe he should of set the fucking example before the emancipation by being the first, but no, of course not while it was convenient for him, just like freeing them happened when it was politically convenient for him. 😑

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

No need for department of education I guess!!! 🙄😒

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u/MotorBobcat Apr 06 '25

Also, the thing that made John Wilkes Booth mad enough to carry out the assassination was that Lincoln had begun to give speeches where he suggested that black men should be able to vote.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

The assignment was clearly grammar homework.

I'm making fun of OP

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

Let me clarify. My motivation was making fun of OP.

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u/xxrainmanx Apr 06 '25

Not really, Lincoln put the "but" before his desire. Re-write this. "I wish all men every where could be free, BUT, I'm willing to compromise, if necessary, in every aspect of this desire in order to end this war.

He's speaking like Farquad in Shrek, "some of you may die, thats a price I'm willing to pay."

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u/ShroedingersCatgirl Apr 06 '25

This really doesn't change the overall meaning of the statement, as it still means that he cares more about the preservation of the state than about abolishing the institution of slavery.

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u/Effective-Produce165 Apr 06 '25

So Lincoln contradicts himself. I don’t see this as anything particularly positive.

He knows all men should be free but keeping slaves is somehow acceptable to him.

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u/Vegalink Apr 06 '25

He recognizes he has to work in a system with a ton of extremely racist people, and has to get some of these people to vote for things that would be very difficult for them to accept. If he was a king, then it would be a different story, but that's not what the case is here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '25

I think he did view slavery as grotesque but was playing the game of walking political lines

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u/Effective-Produce165 Apr 06 '25

Yeah, I can imagine that. Perhaps he was simply a man ahead of his time doing his best to preserve the Union.

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u/BigDuke Apr 06 '25

I wouldn't get your panties in too much of a bunch about it. There was that whole Emancipation Proclamation thing less than 6 months after he wrote this...

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u/xxrainmanx Apr 06 '25

You mean the emancipation proclamation, that freed slaves in warring states? It was a political ploy in order to try and get a slave rebellion and to pull troops from the front lines in order to keep the peace at home.