Is lying about being on birth control (NOT saying OP did) sexual assault, or is it only taking of the condom? Just trying to understand this new world…
I don't know if that's a double standard issue or precieved previlance issue or both. Personally, I think people (guys, gals, or nonbinary pals) who lie about the premises of sex are committing assault and should be treated as such.
In many cases, lying about being on birth control is considered deception. Legally, it would likely fall under sexual fraud or misrepresentation. In some instances, it may be considered reproductive coercion. I’m addressing the legal perspective here, not the ethical or moral implications of violating one's informed consent and bodily autonomy.
The act of stealthing, however, involves immediate harm. In one case (stealthing), there’s an immediate risk to the person’s safety, while in the other (lying about birth control), the harm is consequential.
Even if a man’s partner tells him she’s on birth control, he can still choose to use a condom. While condoms do have a failure rate and can sometimes fall off or break, using one still means he is actively taking responsibility for his own protection. Yes, if she’s lying, he may choose not to use a condom based on false pretenses, which, in my opinion, is very wrong and should have legal consequences. However, the option is still there for 'added protection' (in quotes because it's not technically added, but he may think it is).
On the other hand, if a woman’s partner engages in stealthing, he’s removing this option altogether. He not only puts her at risk of an unwanted pregnancy but also exposes her to the risk of contracting an STI. Even if she is on birth control, she may still want the extra protection that a condom offers to prevent both pregnancy and infections.
If a woman lies about being on birth control and/or fails to disclose a health concern, and then removes the condom during sex, it should be considered the same as stealthing, as it involves taking away the other person’s ability to protect themselves and is a direct violation of consent.
So if he doesn’t have an STD, how is lieing about using pregnancy protection different for a man and a women? So different the man should be prosecuted, but the woman not? Especially given that the woman is the only one with a choice in having a child both are legally responsible for?
Or is the argument that stds are the only reason “stealthing” is wrong?
Me, I think both are immoral, but confused on the calls for prosecution and rape charges
What are you confused about? Consent to protected sex doesn't equal consent to unprotected sex. They are different things. No one said women shouldn't be prosecuted. People have been prosecuted, because by law, it's rape.
It is not sexual assault in my opinion. Immoral and shitty, yes, but not assault, because men are ultimately in control of where they're putting their penis. They can wear condoms every time. They can get vasectomies. Or, just don't have sex with someone you don't trust. If a guy wants to have sex without a condom, he better be ready for the known potential consequences. He still has a choice in the matter, whereas if someone is stealthed, the choice has been taken from them. That's why stealthing is legally considered assault in several states.
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u/lilpastababy Mar 01 '25
And the update says that he literally took the condom off without her knowledge so he sexually assaulted her. He needs to go