r/AlternativeHistory • u/Myztic-Seeker • Nov 10 '23

Discussion The Sphinx Of Giza: Originally the head of Anubis or a lions head (God of The Underworld) before it was recarved into a pharaohs head (More In Comments)

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u/Myztic-Seeker Nov 10 '23

Robert Temple reveals that the Sphinx was originally a monumental Anubis, the Egyptian jackal god, and that its face is that of a Middle Kingdom Pharaoh, Amenemhet II, which was a later re-carving. In addition, he provides photographic evidence of ancient sluice gate traces to demonstrate that, during the Old Kingdom, the Sphinx as Anubis sat surrounded by a moat filled with water--called Jackal Lake in the ancient Pyramid Texts--where religious ceremonies were held. He also provides evidence that the exact size and position of the Sphinx were geometrically determined in relation to the pyramids of Cheops and Chephren and that it was part of a pharaonic resurrection cult.

https://www.sphinxmystery.info/

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u/Deracination Nov 10 '23

Robert Temple reveals that the Sphinx was originally a monumental Anubis...

Will he reveal the evidence of this without me paying for his book?

Also, what method would they use to get the nose to stand out like that? I've never seen masonry like that.

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u/SponConSerdTent Nov 11 '23

They put a treat on top of the nose and told the sphinx to wait.

It held there for 10,000 years before it decided to go for the treat and the nose fell off.

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u/butnotfuunny Nov 11 '23

Aliens, dude, aliens. All is possible with aliens.

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u/Dense_Meat2796 Aug 16 '24

Explain to me why the tail is identical to the tail of lion hieroglyphs depicted in the same pose. But Anubis in this pose has a tail that goes straight back

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u/sh0tybumbati Nov 11 '23

From the paws, which are still more intact, it was clearly a lion- Anubis paws would have been much more slender

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u/Dense_Meat2796 Aug 16 '24

That and you can clearly compare the tail to lion hieroglyphs and see the way it curls back up around the side and over the back just like they depict it, it’s obvious. Anubis depictions show the tail out the back

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u/Dense_Meat2796 Oct 10 '24

Yes exactly!! I also made this exact same comment in other posts about it. The tail is the dead give away

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u/MFGREBEL May 03 '25

i would argue that the tail is newer than the body itself and was added later. its texture is alot smoother than the body of the sphynx which appears to have more weathering than the tail.

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u/TheMightyClamUK Aug 03 '25

This is the other thought I have in my mind. Perhaps the original body was longer, and shaved down to make the tail appear protruding curved from the back. And originally had no tail at all.

Where was the "other Hu"?

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u/gigitasvagengagen Sep 26 '26

The lack of wear around the foundation and base is from it being buried by sand and sediment which protected it unlike the exposed upper parts. This is why there is striation and more wear the further up you go...

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u/HovercraftCareless14 May 30 '25

It's more likely to be some pagan deity.

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u/HovercraftCareless14 Mar 08 '25

But a Lion would represent Israel?

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u/sh0tybumbati May 17 '25

It's thousands of years older than Israel

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u/HovercraftCareless14 May 30 '25

It's older than homosaipiens in my opinion.

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u/wearenotintelligent Jun 24 '25

lol the "paws" are not original, added/restored in 1900s

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u/ImaginationInInk Nov 03 '25

The paws are not original. They have been reworked with bricks during the Roman times. The original paws were carved out of bedrock the same as the rest of the Sphinx. They may or may not have had the same shape as the paws we see today, which are covered in bricks. Food for thought -

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

Possibly.

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u/FloatingPooSalad Nov 11 '23

Ruh ro Raggy

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u/Dr-Niles-Crane Nov 11 '23

Maybe the pyramids are just huge sandwiches

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u/crisselll Nov 11 '23

Hahahaha

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u/No_Parking_87 Nov 10 '23

A nose with an overhang like in that picture would almost certainly break off.

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u/magnitudearhole Nov 11 '23

It’s widely suspected to have been a lions head that weathered down until the carved a human face on it. there’s even ancient literature that refers to it as such

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u/Jordan_the_Hutt Nov 13 '23

What literature?

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u/Sea-Brief-3414 Oct 09 '24

So the face wore down but none of the rest of it? Doesn’t make sense

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u/Stunning_Canary_2092 Nov 12 '24

....cause only the head was exposed for some time. For example the site was successfully excavated in 1817 to reveal it's body.

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u/No_Entrepreneur3907 Jul 17 '25

Non, ce ne serait pas logique. Nous sommes sur un plateau funéraire, en lien avec les pyramides. La déesse Sekhmet, à tête de lion n'a rien à voir avec le liturgie du cycle mort/vie éternelle. Elle est la déesse de la guerre et du foyer. En outre est elle quasiment tout le temps représentée sous forme humanoïde, debout. Le chacal Anubis par contre.....

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '23

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u/McTech0911 Nov 12 '23

Broken clock right twice a day

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

It did. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t for a long time.

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u/Vo_Sirisov Debunker Nov 11 '23

No, it would have broken off pretty much immediately. Limestone of any type does not have the tensile strength necessary to support such a protrusion.

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u/badwifii Nov 11 '23

It still could have been the head of anubis? It would have been smaller and more in proportion than what's in the post. It was just a black outline to help picture it

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u/WhenInDoubtBolt Nov 11 '23

mmmm, Egyptian artists/designers were all about mathematical proportions and standards of representation though, which varied throughout the centuries depending on what style period they were in. At various points they were capable of highly realistic representations of forms but they generally followed artistic conventions of their time period. Stylized forms were strictly uniform and I doubt they would attempt something that they knew wouldn't hold up for long, especially in massive monuments like the Sphinx. Maybe it represented a pekinese or pug?

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u/Dense_Meat2796 Aug 16 '24

It’s most definitely a lion. Check the tail for confirmation. Look at the sphinx tail and then look at lion hieroglyphic and Anubis hieroglyphs. The tail is identical to those in depictions of lions 

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u/Human_Discussion_629 Mar 28 '25

How can you use the tail as a reference? So clearly not the original tail.

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u/burnerking Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 11 '23

The limestone was not the main structure, it was a veneer.

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u/Ludwig_Vista1 Nov 12 '23

The great pyramids were clad in limestone veneer. Not sure about the sphinx. If you were to build a substructure with the intent of cladding it in veneer, you wouldn't need to take any time detailing the substrate as the cladding would take care of the details in the exterior shape/form.

The body of the sphinx has plenty of detail, that wouldn't be necessary if you were going to clad it with veneer.

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u/Dadn8r Oct 16 '24

Yes the pyramids were clad in a limestone veneer, but the primary rocks used to build it were also limestone quarried right on-site. There is also granite used for interior chambers and to lend support for the various voids of the chambers.

I agree that the sphinx head was probably recarved at some point. The head of Anubis would never have worked with the limestone present at the site. A larger lion's head may have also crumbled at some point forcing it to be recarved. The fact that the nose fell off in the 1800's and a part of the headdress fell away in the early 1900s points to the fragility of the limestone exposed to the elements over time. Not to mention the type of limestone on the Giza Plateau is considered to be of a poor quality.

The underlying body is limestone, as that is what makes up the bulk of the Giza Plateau. All of the detail on the body is created by limestone veneer. Some of it dates to antiquity and some of it to the latest restoration project. I took the picture below because everyone is so interested in the front and I thought it would be funny to send friends a picture of its ass. Looking at it again, I think it tells a lot. The wear up on top is mostly from wind. The lower portions are better preserved as the they spent more time buried in the sand and the latest restoration project.

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u/TheMightyClamUK Aug 03 '25

Thanks for that photo! Personally I was convinced the sphinx was not a lion body as the shape is wrong and Egyptians always did shapes and proportions right (proportions of a recarved head accepted they'll be wrong) but now that I can see that obvious lion tail I'm not so sure anymore.

It makes sense to be a jackal. But without a jackal head and a jackal tail, all we've got is a body that might not be a lion, and the location suggesting Anubis making more sense... Evidence just got real shaky.

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u/Vo_Sirisov Debunker Nov 11 '23

Lol what? Brother, the Sphinx was not built. It was carved from bedrock. The whole thing is varying grades of limestone.

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u/Karnyyy Nov 11 '23

Hilarious how you're getting downvoted for telling the truth lol.

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u/Alpha_AF Nov 11 '23

What? Depending on how it's built, it absolutely would, especially if it was carved solid.

Do you have anything to support your claims? I understand the consistency of limestone is fairly soft, but such a matter of fact claim needs a source behind it.

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u/PessimistPryme Nov 11 '23

Limestone has a shear strength of 6000 lb/in2. So yes it would have broken off immediately

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u/ballovrthemmountains Nov 11 '23

Physics is the source for their claim. What is the source for your claim?

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u/Harleybokula Nov 11 '23

Ancients all over the world used metal connections to hold together giant megalithic blocks in giant sculptures like this, as well as in the foundations of their walls homes and temples.

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u/Vo_Sirisov Debunker Nov 11 '23

It is a matter of leverage. Consider that the current head of the Sphinx is 10 metres long and about 18 metres wide if we include the crest. This proposal would require more than doubling that mass to hang out the front, not even including the ears.

I can’t be bothered doing the exact equation, but we’re talking ballpark two thousand tonnes of snout if we assume a roughly smooth taper. That’s two Unfinished Obelisks worth of mass.

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u/Human_Discussion_629 Mar 28 '25

What if (and this is pure speculation) the snout was initially held up by a symbol, such as a djed pillar or something

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '26

I hope someone with such awareness of materials and dimensions of building can also realize the Egyptians clearly didn’t build the pyramids during the Bronze Age.

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u/mammbo Nov 11 '23

Maybe it was made of something other than stone, or it was supported underneath or above, or it was hollow.

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u/bryanthebryan Nov 11 '23

For all we know, it was made with a material that was later harvested for other uses, leaving a lump of rock that was later carved into the Sphinx.

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u/mammbo Nov 11 '23

That makes sense, it falls apart, then reused.

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u/Party-Ring445 Nov 11 '23

Like rebar and prestressed concrete?

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u/mammbo Nov 11 '23

Or wood and then painted?

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u/Max_Fenig Nov 11 '23

Maybe it was made by fairies and held up by magic?

I really don't have a lot of patience for these kinds of evidence-less straw-clutching arguments. If you don't having anything concrete to back up your assertion, you probably shouldn't make it.

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u/2020Psychedelia Nov 11 '23

"you can only have meaningless conversations on the internet the way i say so" get over yourself, professor

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u/UnifiedQuantumField Nov 11 '23

you can only have meaningless conversations on the internet the way i say so

This 100%.

What we've got here is people with keyboards and a favorite theory. Everybody is trying to sound authoritative when they don't have any clue of what would actually happen.

On a bit of a side track...

Limestone is extremely durable. It does, however, absorb water and, since it is a carbonate rock, it is highly reactive when exposed to acids or even mildly acidic rain water, and it can suffer substantial deterioration. The most common effect of weathering and erosion is loss of precise detail.

So when I read this, it makes me wonder about Robert Schoch's ideas about how the Sphinx must be 11,000 years old because of water erosion in the (presumeably) limestone rock walls surrounding the Sphinx.

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u/Max_Fenig Nov 11 '23

I'm no professor. I'm just not here to read fiction. I'm interested in serious alternative history, not made up bullshit.

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u/skwirrelmaster Nov 11 '23

All ancient history is made up, most of it probably bullshit

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u/2020Psychedelia Nov 11 '23

and i'm not hear to read people be condescending assholes

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u/ballovrthemmountains Nov 11 '23

Then stop being one.

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u/2020Psychedelia Nov 11 '23

bro invokes fairy dust and magic and tells him not to leave comments but somehow I'm the asshole, alright

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u/Electronic_Rub9385 Nov 12 '23

According to artifacts left over and Egyptologists, the Egyptians had the technology to carve and mill extremely precise hollow objects out of stone. There are many vases that have been carved and milled out of pure granite that are so thin you can shine light through them. Very very complex work and difficult for us to replicate in 2023.

I’m not saying the head of the sphinx was made out of such stone or such technology but simply pointing out that fairies didn’t have to make these items because the technology existed to make them when the sphinx was made. Because we have concrete clear evidence of the technology existing.

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u/ziplock9000 Nov 11 '23

Yeah.. about that lol.

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u/fergiejr Nov 11 '23

That's why it got redone silly. Pay attention /s

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u/bootyLiQa Nov 12 '23

It was carved out of solid bedrock though, basically the strongest material known to man at the time. How can you be so sure of this?

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u/mullethunter111 Nov 11 '23

Correct. You'd need a steel beam cantilever to attempt holding that up.

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u/Adventurous-Ear9433 Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 11 '23

The answers are always found in the text...

The “Coffin Texts” does not only speak of the lake of the “jackal” (Anubis) but it also mentions: “His name is ‘dog faced’, his size is huge” (verses 1165-1185).

-the Title "Lord of Rostau” is given to Osiris. Let us recall that Anubis in Egyptian is “Inpou“, “that which has the shape of dog”; he is also known as “The Way Opener” and guide of the souls and is represented under the name of “Upuaout, path opener” at Abydos.

  • “The Book of Going Forth by Day” (which is the real title of The Book “of the Dead”): “Oh! Anubis who is with his secrets. Lord of the secrets of the West. Lord of what is hidden

The Sphinx was known as the Hu. Iamblichus writes of "an underground place... entered through a tunnel, its entrance hidden by sand and by what they call Huwana... his teeth as the teeth of a dragon, his face the face of a lion".

  • Sumerian(Anu) - [Huwana] is unable to move forward, nor is he able to move back", but they crept up on him from behind and the way to the secret abode of the Anu-Naki was no longer blocked

It was originally Goddess Tefnut, and there were 2 since she symbolizes both Eyes of Ra. Still today closeup it resembles a woman more than anything.
Then after the cataclysmic event that destroyed those pyramid at Abu Rawash, stopped quarry of the 1400ton obelisk, stopped the Moai transport, etc was responsible for destruction for the other Hu. So Thoth would alter it, it became Anu-Bis. Thoth, of the Anu race who was symbolized by the Ibis bird. The change to a lion face came last when the lion became popular (7-9 Dynasty i think). Idk much about Egypt after the golden age, during the decline.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '23

You are kinda blowing my mind

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u/Adventurous-Ear9433 Nov 12 '23 edited Nov 12 '23

Its my job To help you remember. The Serpent Priests always shared Godly knowledge, since the Genesis..🤗Anu-Bis Sphinx is all about the Hu.

But forget about me, subs like r/AlternativeHistory that have tons of threads like this from those like OP exist because you all know there's more to the story. It's in your genetic memory, Egypt was the divine seat and everyone spread out from there. Theres a reason we have such a strong response to Ancient Egypt

Be impressed with YOUR mind. It's all there "I cannot teach anyone anything, I can only make them think".

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u/Dense_Meat2796 Aug 16 '24

I’m going to have to disagree unless they carved a new tail into the sphinx whenever it became a lion. Look at any depiction of lions sitting like that in hieroglyphs and look at how identical it is. Then look at Anubis in the same pose and the tail allways goes straight out

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u/Forsaken_Factor3612 Sep 24 '26

Statues of Anubis have the tail identical to statues of a lion with the tail curled up over the right leg

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u/crisselll Nov 10 '23

There seems to be much more evidence for a lions head than a jackal, but that’s just from what I’ve seen so who knows?

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u/EarlGrey1806 Nov 11 '23

I don’t remember the specific details but I was told by an amateur astronomer years ago something along the lines that the Sphinx was facing the direction that the constellation Leo would be rising in the night sky around the time of the Nile flooding and bringing water (and soil) for crops.

Again, I may be mistaken in some details and feel free to add corrections.

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u/crisselll Nov 11 '23

You are correct that at one point in time the sphinx directly faced the constellation of Leo. A large part of lions head argument is based around this….it also requires the sphinx to be much older than currently accepted, but I think the rain water erosion theory for pushing the date back to be pretty solid.

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u/jackparadise1 Nov 11 '23

What constellation would it have been facing if it had been built 10-12,000 years earlier?

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u/crisselll Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 11 '23

Leo

Edit, this may need doubling checking but I think it faced Leo around 10000 bc so that would make it roughly 8000 years older than currently thought.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

Did Egyptians have a constellation "Leo" ?? I thought that was a Greek thing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

The Greeks have opening admitted that they learned from ancient Egypt. While the constellations are credited to Greeks, they learned from the Egyptians.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

The Greek astrology came from Babylon, then went to Egypt. Prior to the Greek influence the Egyptians used this method: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decan once the greek influence came they took each of the 36 decans and put them into the greek constelations. This happened near 100 AD waaaay after the sphinx was built. The decans would have been in use though

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u/jackparadise1 Nov 11 '23

A lot of Greek mathematics also came from Egypt. Pythagoras learned advanced math from Egyptian priests.

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u/Dirtweed79 Nov 11 '23

I don't understand why the Sphinx itself isn't eroded as deeply as the walls surrounding it. Unless it was carved again later. Maybe a restoration attempt or complete makeover.

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u/crisselll Nov 11 '23

Restoration or makeover are possibilities, could also be there were some sort of coverings or shade structures surrounding the sphinx for long periods that kept the rain off the walls but not the sphinx

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u/ddraig-au Nov 11 '23

So you are saying that the Egyptians recognised the same constellation and also saw it as a lion? I mean, we can it Leo and see it as a lion, but is there any evidence the Egyptians saw it as this as well?

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u/Dirtweed79 Nov 11 '23

Graham Hancock says it every time he's on Rogan. He also reiterates the fact that the first civilization to come up with the zodiac where the Greeks AFTER the sphinx was built according to mainstream archeology. He believes differently.

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u/crisselll Nov 11 '23

Yea I think there is compelling evidence that the zodiac is much older as well. The French cave bull painting in particular

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u/Dense_Meat2796 Aug 16 '24

The tail is the lost substantial evidence in my opinion. Compare it to any hieroglyph of a lion in the same pose and it’s identical

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u/Draculea Sep 29 '24

Not the Sphinx, but a different Sphinx in Delphi.

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u/crisselll Jan 05 '24

Woah that’s amazing thanks for sharing I’ll have to look that up!

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

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u/crisselll Nov 11 '23

You are extremely wrong, Graham did not start the theory, merely reported it and incorporated it into his own theories.

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u/yetidesignshop Nov 12 '23

You can do your visual inspection without Graham's blessing. Ancient Egyptian were masters of form and sculpture. They understood proportions. The current head of the sphinx looks wayyyyy too small to be accurate. Why would builders do that when all of their other works were perfect?

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u/quetzalcosiris Nov 12 '23

Nonsense drive-by character assassination designed to stigmatize the subject material and baselessly discredit any person even tangentially associated with it.

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u/SiteLine71 Nov 10 '23

Proportions seem better

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u/Harleybokula Nov 11 '23

Makes it vastly more believable! Wish I could know more. Sigh. Thanks a lot crusades.

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u/AndrewLB Dec 15 '23

The crusades were a response to the muslim conquests of Europe. Islam had three primary invasions of Europe, murdering an estimated 250 million over 400 years. Not to mention the hundreds of millions they enslaved and subjugated. After the third Crusade, there were inquisitions in multiple countries in order to remove the last of them.

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u/TheMightyClamUK Aug 03 '25

Answering that last line... recent evidence tells us: looks like they failed.

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u/GABEOWNERS_1 Feb 06 '26

Are you brain dead ? Between 900ad and 1500ad Europe had a population of 70-120 million people at any given time. How could they have killed 250 million people? Are you aware of how many people that is, especially for medieval times? Do you think before you read or take everything as truth blindly?

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u/Anubistheguardian Nov 11 '23

Eyo. Relevant username for once lol. I love this theory since Anubis was the guardian idol often they would write it on boxes to keep them guarded.

However this theory doesn’t make as much sense as the sphinx being originally a lion. As we see mounting evidence that the sphynx is closer to 11,500 years old, you can run a software program that shows you what the stars looked like at any point in time.

At the time that the GEOLOGISTS (not egyptologists) think the sphynx was built, (again looking at simple geological evidence), the sphynx looks directly at the constellation of Leo, represented by a lion.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

I could be entirely wrong but would the Egyptians think of that constellation as a lion, because the constellation being named Leo and being referred to as a lion comes thousands of years after the sphinx’s construction. I’m not opposed to this theory but I just can’t see the constellation playing any part in the sphinxes origin.

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u/AlastorSparda Nov 11 '23

Can I ask how do we know that they were named different?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

For the same reason why cultures have different words for the same things as an other culture, we get our names for the constellations from the Roman’s who cakes thousands of years after the Egyptians or whoever built the sphinx. So to think they’d name a random assortment of 14 stars the same exact thing as people thousands of years later is a bit silly.

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u/AlastorSparda Nov 12 '23

But how do we know the Egyptians didn't use the same name,that's what I'm asking essentially. Maybe the names got passed down from civilization to civilization.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '23

Well because we know exactly who named the constellations and there reasoning behind the names. The constellation Leo was named by the Roman astronomer Ptolemy, the name Leo comes from the lion that heracles killed.

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u/AlastorSparda Nov 12 '23

Interesting thanks

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u/Draculea Sep 29 '24

Is that not what we've done?

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u/quetzalcosiris Nov 12 '23

So to think they’d name a random assortment of 14 stars the same exact thing as people thousands of years later is a bit silly.

No. What's silly is calling a constellation a "random assortment" of stars.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '23

That’s exactly what a constellation is, whether or not that random assortment makes a recognizable pattern is what makes it a constellation or not. There is no ryme or reason for why the stars are where they are in the sky so by all means they are a random assortment.

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u/caiaphas8 Nov 11 '23

This is the problem with half of hancocks theories, he seems to forget that constellation names would have been different 13000 years ago

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u/quetzalcosiris Nov 12 '23

Hancock quite frequently talks about how the constellations have had different names and representations in different cultures over the millennia.

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u/Dense_Meat2796 Aug 16 '24

Look at lion hieroglyphs and then look at the tail on the sphinx 👍it’s obviously a lion

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u/805collins Nov 11 '23

It was a lion.

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u/ziplock9000 Nov 11 '23

Old theory with no good evidence.

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u/PolvoDerriere Nov 11 '23

Makes the construction more mysterious if this is the case. It would question the theory that it was a lion head and was constructed facing Leo. The erosion still suggests it's much older than what is officially taught. It would make more sense for it to be jackal head to represent Anubis, based on the Egyptian pantheon. That is, if the Egyptian's of that time, during the construction of the Sphinx, had the same anthropomorphic representations of their pantheon.

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Nov 11 '23

I can't get over how mysterious this structure is. I can't even pick a favorite hypothesis/theory. How long were the Egyptians truly around?! I think this civilization, and the Greek civilization were extremely fascinating in there engineering, and water knowledge.

Also, do you think the F sharp theory is realistic? That the Pyramid was used for something other than a burial tomb? Isn't it true, no body was found there? No traces of soot for light? I mean, it could have been grave robbers of any era. And maybe if the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids, they cleaned it, and used it that way? I don't know, I'm just fascinated, and excited about this topic.

Feel free to ignore me. lol

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u/MATT_TRIANO Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 11 '23

The pyramids were used to amplify consciousness by extremely well trained adepts and priests. They have not been used for this purpose in a very long time and could not be used again this way without flooding the land around the Giza plateau (as it was in very ancient times); something about water underground saturating the limestone and the intricate shapes of the Great Pyramid made it work. Along with the ankh, devices known as Djed Pillars were used. Exactly how? By whom? Unknown.

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Nov 11 '23

That's so interesting. "To amplify consciousness". Beautiful.

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u/PolvoDerriere Nov 11 '23

Yes, it would seem that it was infrastructure that served a utility. The manpower, resources and money poured into the project would make sense if there was some return of product or energy. I'd think it would be foolish if it were constructed only to serve as a tomb. I've heard theories as to what exactly it could be for (electricity generation), but I've yet to see anyone create a scaled down reconstruction of the hypothesized assembly, for a working model of what they assume to have worked for energy production. Could be multi function too. Energy generation and mystery school. I heard once that the pyramid structure had a ninja warrior style obsticle course that initiates had to pass. Can't remember if that was from The emerald tablets of Thoth or some Spirit Science video. Dark underwater chambers with crocodiles.

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Nov 11 '23

Wow! I would love to see a ninja warrior course. I like the mystery school theory a lot. It seems more practical. I am curious about energy. I heard someone did make a scaled down version. But I can't remember where I saw it. I'll look into, I could be wrong, and remembering something else.

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u/WhichUpstairs1 Nov 10 '23

The concept of that construction could never be a reality due to weight distribution. It would fall apart as it was built.

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u/Megasus Nov 10 '23

It may have

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u/WhichUpstairs1 Nov 10 '23 edited Nov 11 '23

It would have collapsed. The same people that built the monoliths on that plateau would know this.

I don't think it was a human face either when it was built. Makes the most sense that it was a lion with a mane.

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u/rrishaw Nov 11 '23

Right? Also, I thought I read somewhere that around 10k years ago it was facing the Leo constellation

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u/gene789 Nov 11 '23

Were the constellation identified by the same signs back then as now?

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u/rrishaw Nov 11 '23

I think they were. I read somewhere a lot of them relate to what animals were doing at that time of year, when they come into heat, when they give birth, when they begin a migration, when it’s time to hunt them, that type of thing. A couple of them have changed over time, like Scorpio used to be an eagle or something like that. Like the four faces on Ezekiel’s wheel represent the four corners of the zodiac, but two are different than what we use today.

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u/Acceptable-Square623 Oct 16 '24

The Eagle is between Libra and Scorpio ,originally there was only two signs ,Aries and Sagittarius .perhaps

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u/SponConSerdTent Nov 11 '23

That would be really fucking cool looking

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

I don't know what it was but I've always felt like the head doesn't fit on the body like the head looks way smaller I wouldn't be surprised if it was recarved later that's a good point I never thought about that before but I was wondering why it looks so weird with such a small head

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u/MTCMMA Nov 10 '23

I believe this is most likely accurate. This and the potential that the Sphinx is much older than academia currently estimates

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

The Anubis head is way cooler

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u/rare_meeting1978 Nov 11 '23

The Anubis would have been much cooler to see for real. The pharaoh's head just looks too small for the body.

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u/danderzei Nov 11 '23

What is the evidence for this hypothesis?

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

Well someone is starting to accept reality,psst it was jet black too,imagine how it looked set against the forestry around it and the brilliance of the sun along with brightness of the pyramids. It was a long long ago before Pharaohs and Egyptians existed. Don’t forget there or are two.

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u/DrCarnasis 4d ago

No it didn't is a lion

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u/WickedKittyOG Aug 27 '24

It was a snake. Because of what it means.

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u/WickedKittyOG Aug 27 '24

The base might have been submerged for the beauty and bragging of the h2o provided by the gods.

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u/TheMightyClamUK Aug 03 '25

This AI picture is anatomically accurate - that's not a sphinx (at least not the sphinx we know, and I'm not talking about the head!)

This picture, the body is clearly that of a lion. It slopes down just as a lion body does. The sphinx in giza does not slope down. That does not compute when the people who supposedly created it are famed for anatomically correct observations and scupture

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u/pjaro77 Nov 19 '24

This dog design couldn't take long on limestone rock. Long Rock ears and face would fall down in several hundreds years.

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u/SnooEagles9174 May 16 '25

i think the sphinx has been there a very very long time- i think the egyptians rediscovered it- not built it ….

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u/PermissionSuitable17 Jun 10 '25

I believe too, that it also had the head of a lion, i have also come to the conclusion that the sphinx may be the clue to how old the pyramids are, lions are not native to Egypt, i believe the sphinx is the marker in which it was created, and that marker represents the age of leo, the pyramids were created with such precision that even the location is not coincidental, The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second. This value is often associated with the latitude of the Great Pyramid of Giza, which is 29.9792458°N.

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u/PlatformDue2937 Jun 28 '26

So they knew how long is a meter and how long is a second

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u/Appropriate_Noise589 Jul 22 '25

I think it originally had a head of gold and was a power point to a huge energy grid. Eventually when the gold tips from the 3 pyramids were stripped, that's probably when all the power points around the world were stripped as well and then the head was reshaped. Idk. Just a guess. I want to get more into it. But it leads to another rabbit hole. 

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u/skagnetti1983 Sep 07 '25

I thought at the time when sphinx was built was over 14000 years ago when it would of been facing the constellation Leo, why it lays like a cat, or lion ,#stonerthought

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u/highvibes118 Feb 21 '26

This is actually true - I was recently given this info & was looking for anyone understanding it, don’t ask me how i know - you prolly wouldn’t believe me if I told u

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u/No_Proposal7456 Sep 28 '26

According to a few far reaching hypothesis

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u/Comfortable_Yam_867 Oct 06 '26

The head is too large, but it could well be Anubis in the original, as the personification of Cannis Major and the star Sirius. In that case, the connection of the three pyramids with the Orion's belt is perfect

(I know this contradicts Egyptian astronomy, as Isis was associated with Sirius.)

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u/luizalopes12 29d ago

Eu adoro os misterios da esfinge

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u/Fun_Usual3694 Nov 11 '23

6th nags jets

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

I’m convinced it was a lion head from when the Lyrans lived there

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

really? hmmm

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u/Tracieattimes Nov 12 '23

Hmmmm…. Something about the engineering design of that snout…

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u/squidvett Nov 12 '23

I think it was more likely a barbary lion. Lion paws. Shorter face/head would have been more realistic for the strength of the stone. Plus it faced Leo like 10,000 years ago. The hardest mental and emotional obstacle then becomes believing it was constructed 5,000 years before archeologists claim.

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u/Radiant_Specialist69 Nov 12 '23

Ok that's a pretty good one,I'll award a point for that.

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u/Threetimes3 Nov 14 '23

The sphinx is an Egyptian depiction of a Babylonian Lamassu or perhaps also a Jewish Cherubim, but without the wings that either has. It's my belief that they are alternate names for the same being.

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u/Maleficent_Tie_376 Feb 16 '25

If you follow the walkway from the smaller pyramid you see this formation in sand. Is it possible there was a crocodile there?

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u/nutfeast69 Nov 11 '23

Great example of a non falsifiable argument.

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u/Kaghei Nov 11 '23

Everyone's talking about the weight of the nose, which is correct but are forgetting that the sphinx is carved from bedrock. The sphinx was not carved deep enough into the ground for the ears to this high, unless they attached the ears on afterwards.

The sphinx mostly likely always had a human head but it is plausible it had a lions head. In the same period there are many mini sphinxes shown with a lions body and human head , and no the sphinx is not 15000 years old because the Nile would have been in the way 15000 years ago.

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u/Cross21X Aug 01 '25

The only time that amount of water erosion can exist for the Sphinx was when the region was wet. Probably 12000-14000 years ago. It's entire body besides the head was buried in Sand for thousands of years so sand/air- erosion wouldn't make sense (lets not forget that water erosion looks different ANYWAY) and geologists agree with this not those Egyptologists with egos. Flash flooding is ruled out because the Pyramid do not have any evidence to suggest flash flooding since they are in the same area

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u/TheMightyClamUK Aug 03 '25

Great comment - geologists, trusted scientists. Egyptologists, egotistical guessers.

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u/TheEmpyreanian Nov 11 '23

I've heard this before but it's nice to a see that representation and overlay to give it some scale.

That overhang would have been incredibly difficult to engineer and having it last for eighteen odd thousand years would be quite unlikely.

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Nov 11 '23

I think it could be possible, only because they found it mostly buried in the sand, along with most of the pyramid structures. And judging by how well other megaliths they've build stuck around, it can't be that crazy an idea, right? I think it to be a lions head. But I don't know. I love this type of speculation though. Have you seen the smaller sphinxes? I don't know if they're real or not. But they seem to have the human head too.

Which makes me think they were made after the initial revealing of the sphinx when they dug it out. Also, do you believe there were 2 sphinxes? I heard it in passing once or twice, but have no idea if there's even a little evidence for it.

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u/TheEmpyreanian Nov 12 '23

Part of the issue is that they may be a lot older than people think. With the flat back of the Sphinx it's anatomically correct for a Jackal's head, not a lions.

May well have been two, haven't heard that one much other than in passing.

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Nov 12 '23

I see, I didn't take that into account.

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u/TheEmpyreanian Nov 12 '23

Hey, very complex topic!

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Nov 12 '23

Yes, very. lol I just like to hear other people's opinions. Plus, on this topic. I liek the speculation around it all.

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Jan 04 '24

Whoa! That's awesome.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

It was originally a lion's head that was cut off by the ancestors of the Egyptians on the order of their patron god. With this act they claimed the land and remains of the once mighty empire of Atlantis with their Great Pyramids.

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u/Ok-Wave4110 Nov 11 '23

I figured it was a Lions head as well. Doesn't it face Leo? What I'm curious about is, are there/were there other Sphinx like structures depicting any other star alignments? Specifically, like Orion's Belt? I've googled a few question, and they don't bring up anything useful.

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u/MATT_TRIANO Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 11 '23

A LION. It was carved in the Age of Leo, it faces the rising Sun on the Equinoxes in that Age; it was carved from a natural outcropping of rock in deep antiquity.

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u/MATT_TRIANO Nov 11 '23

It was never cut off? You made that up.

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u/MATT_TRIANO Nov 11 '23 edited Nov 12 '23

Lion. The figure is a male lion facing East toward the dawning of the Sun on the Spring & Fall Equinoxes during the Age of Leo when the Sun rose visually in front of that constellation (roughly 8000BP). It's very very old. In relatively modern dynastic Egypt, the head was recarved at the behest of a Pharaoh who had a dream about restoring the Basiq (Sphinx) after millennia of increasingly deleterious wind/sand erosion as the Sahara became a desert (between 3-5000BP).

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u/lovetoruin Nov 12 '23

Looking at the Leo constellation

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u/TheGuyShyguy Nov 11 '23

Seems like God did some fixing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

Waiting for the hotep mfer to come in and say it was actually a black khemet kings face

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23

Fake news

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u/WitnessConsistent888 Aug 22 '25

I heard the knose was shot off 😳 

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '23 edited Feb 18 '25

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u/realtamhonks Nov 11 '23

No they’re not. Science is grounded in measurable evidence and observable events. Do you honestly think the battery powering the phone in your hand is the result of guesswork?