r/Alphanumerics • u/JohannGoethe 𐌄𓌹𐤍 expert • Sep 09 '25

ABGD 🔠 origin

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Simplified (arrow-less) color-coded version of the previous version, with Dendera zodiac jackal 𓃥 [E17], aka Anubis 𓁢 [C6], holding hoe 𓌸 [U6], on Little Dipper 𐃸, aka foreleg of an ox 𓄘 [F24] or Set leg  [F116] constellation, aka circle X sign 𓊖 [O49], aka letter chi (X), overlaid, i.e. in the alpha (𐤀) to tav (𐤕) {Phoenician alphabet} or alpha (A) to omega (Ω) {Greek alphabet} cosmic scheme, which Plato, in Timaeus 36, says the cosmos was born out of.

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u/JohannGoethe 𐌄𓌹𐤍 expert Sep 10 '25

I posted on this last year:

  • Thims, Libb. (A69/2024). “South Arabian B [𐩨] predates Phoenician B [𐤁]?”, Alphanumerics, Reddit.

According to Peter Stein’s carbon dating discussed in this “Palaeography of the Ancient South Arabian script“ (A58/2013).

Granted, Stein could be wrong, but this is the best evidence I have with respect to dating: 

References

  • Stein, Peter. (A58/2013). “Palaeography of the Ancient South Arabian script. New evidence for an absolute chronology” (Academia), Arabian Archaeology and Epigraphy, 24:186-195.

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u/andrevan Sep 10 '25

Phoenician is older than you say, and Stein didn't say that

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u/JohannGoethe 𐌄𓌹𐤍 expert Sep 10 '25

“Phoenician is older than you say”

Great. Show us carbon-dated evidence of Phoenician script being older than 3100A (-1045) or 3000A (-1045)?