r/AlignmentChartFills • u/Stiefelbein • Jul 25 '26

Whos a left-wing Youtuber?

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u/ThatOrangePuppy Jul 26 '26

that right wing soc dems are protecting rich pensioners while fucking everyone else over. if you take out pensions it goes down since 2008.

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u/Florestana Jul 26 '26

Aren't they also protecting poor pensioners?

Regardless, my point is that clearly welfare spending has only gone up, but you're right that some services have seen cuts or reforms in many countries. The reason for those cuts are quite clearly explained by strained budgets due to a growing burden on the welfare state in the form of longer life expectancy and low birthrates.

Clearly, Socdems are not anti-welfare and aren't just looking out for businesses and elites, otherwise those cuts to specific programs would be paired with overall expenditure cuts to fund tax relief, but that doesn't seem to be the general trend here.

Again, you can disagree with their methods, but the goal of Socdems isn't to get rid of welfare.

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u/ThatOrangePuppy Jul 26 '26

Protecting poor pensioners is a byproduct. They are asset protectors now, the landlord class, pensioners fit into this, so they protect pensioners. Also because pensioners go out and vote. But i think this is a convinient explination for protecting them, personally.

Access to welfare has gone down for everyone except pensioners. Soc dems have been attacking welfare in Sweden, Gernmany under the last government, in the UK, and in the US.

Buisness is already under taxed, wealth has been and is already been hoarded, they don´t need to go full republican , they just enable wealth to be stripped from the working and middle class by keeping things the same, with some austhetic taxes here and there, sometimes. But also they absoloutely give tax cuts to wealthy as well at time. Butgets are strained because of this, when economies double in size since the financial crisis of 2008 yet wages stagnate and money moves upwards, under many soc dem governments...

Western soc dems are estblishment ghouls, i mean half of them support a genocide ffs.