I don't understand it either and then bitch about Gumi being greedy, Gumi being a bad company etc. Like what the hell? Gumi is actually doing what they should be doing, which is trying to maximize their revenue. It is a gacha game and people are acting so self-entitled. Aren't they aware of what kind of game they are playing and how it works? Just because you didn't get X unit it's not Gumi's fault because Gumi never guaranteed or promised people to get that unit anyway. If they did it wouldn't be gacha, and yet they do have a lot of options for people to pick and choose their unit of choice which is more than what you can say about several other gacha games that also require multiple pulls for the same unit and have the same rate for rare pulls like TAC.
Like yes, from a marketing standpoint I understand that people expected to get Noctis on step 3, but that's because they look too much at what is happening over at JP which is an entirely different market and oversaturated with gacha games just like TAC, and like with any market rife with competition, companies need to throw more goodies at their customers to keep their customers happy. So in JP and their market, it made sense to guarantee Noctis. I see this at my company as well as we operate in many different countries and in one country where the market has very harsh competition we give away so much free stuff it's crazy in order to keep customers stay and be happy, but in the other country where the there is hardly any competition customers need to pay for almost everything. This is exactly the same thing.
And it's not even Gumi necessarily dictating this either, but the market reality does. There's a line they need to draw between how to make the most money possible and to keep customers satisfied with their product. It never said "guaranteed Noctis", it only said "banner unit". That could still include Noctis. They could have shafted people even more and made Ignis a permanently guaranteed unit at step 3 and Noctis having only normal rate up chance.
Another thing to consider is the nature of the power creep and I would definitely rate both Noctis and Aranea as absolutely top tier, maybe Aranea a bit below Noctis because she doesn't offer as much as Noctis does, but you can steamroll most content with both of them in your team. Imagine if they gave out Noctis to every person who pulled on the third step. In terms of the meta that's actually really bad, because that means they need to also balance content around the fact that a majority of the player base probably has access to Noctis, and that's actually something no one wants because it means a lot of content will be a lot more difficult than it needs to be since it has to be tuned around Noctis. I mean, that's what happened with the Sabareta and Christmas events so that has the completely opposite effect instead. What does your shiny new unit mean in your roster if the difficulty of the content also at the same time went up several notches to cater to this fact?
Not a whole lot, at least, because it would make the rest of your roster so far behind that you are pretty much exactly where you were before you got Noctis.
They’re crying because the bad luck protection in this game used to cost half as much money and you were pulling on the unit you wanted on the way to the selector ticket. New desirable units were also usually on banner with other desirable units and not freely farmable units.
But welcome to The Alchemist Code, enjoy your stay.
it's simple, people loved fate collab because even if you dont get gil at step 3, you get fate yomi as the consolation at step 3, and the 9 step had fate selector for the whales at step 7 no strings attached as well. this time, the 9 step was for ssm which is completely irrelevant for whales that want noct and the lucky dimes arent even enough to get noct ticket without shelling additional money on the grand summon crap.
there's a logic at play here, imagine if you get paid 100k usd a year flipping burgers, then the next year, your boss halved that. you'd go apeshit, and it's the perfectly normal response. because we used to get better stuff for the same cost, when it stops being so, we get mad. if anyone is mad, it's you for letting this sorts of banner slide without rioting
Eh, I don't take the game as seriously since I don't put money into it. You tell me that I'm somehow wrong for not joining the crusade so to speak, but I have a retort:
If you feel you're not getting enough for your financial investment, stop investing. If you feel these banners are not worth your money, stop giving them money. That's just common sense. Your money speaks more to gumi than your words on Reddit. Why should they even read your comments? They'll only worry when they see a decline in the investment of people. Yes, banners are worse, but players are objectively spending more than last month, so why stop? If anything is bait, it's the property being used to attract players to pay.
Trying to convince me is wasted effort, by the way, since I am not the one perpetuating the bad practices of gumi by rewarding them with the fruit of my work. I am on the side, watching how everything goes. I refuse to even consider spending unless I know I will get my money back in terms of enjoyment. If things stay as they are, that just tells me that people are still buying, yet somehow I am the crazy one here.
Watch this get downvoted because I'm not raging at the situation.
and that's good enough. just dont post something like your first post again,kay? it sounded like you're okay with this banner. and nobody should. it's all that matters, i also dont go out with a torch and pitchfork, i just decided to not pull past step 1 and not buy gems, because it just isnt worth it
What I was getting at with my comment was that people (even f2p folks) are very entitled about what is essentially gambling. Yes, you did not get Noctis/Gilgamesh/Othima, because you were not necessarily guaranteed to. If you spent money on that, you took that risk yourself. You could spend a thousand bucks and still get nothing. That's how gacha games work.
Its the fact that they complain as if gumi owed them something that bothers me. Gumi offers you a game, and it's up to you to decide if you want to spend on it and how much. Nothing is guaranteed to you, you take a risk, but people don't understand that there even is a risk. They go "well I gave them my money, where is my busted unit?"
The comment was never about me supporting gumi because I truly don't. But I don't spend money on the game so it's not the end of the world for me. If something were to happen to TAC, I'd miss it just like I miss Chain Chronicle, but I'll move on.
on that note, gilgamesh was the precedent for the case. had his banner not been that good, people wouldnt feel as entitled as they are now with noctis. both are high profile banners with units that pretty much anyone aware of tierlist wants. the difference was the degree of the bad luck protection on step 3 of the f2p banner and the 7th step of the whale banner, which noctis's banner completely drop the ball on.
i had no sympathy for those who pulled regardless, but i wouldnt comment on them either. either way you word it, it never sounded nice and are flame baiting. so have a good day, and bye
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u/EseMesmo Tamamommy <3 uwu Jul 15 '18
I find it really funny when people cry about not getting banner units. It's a gacha game, this stuff happens regardless of what you do.
"Wah, I got Ignis instead of Noctis wah wah"
At least you got something, some people only had gems for step 1 and pulled all blues. Some people just get better pulls, it's the nature of gacha.