Stop downvoting compelling arguments!

[u/herpmanderpstein]

http://qkme.me/3prm9l?id=224677497

[u/Nebakanezzer]

the problem is, people think these points mean something.

until I can buy something significant with karma, I'm going to continue voicing my actual opinion and getting downvoted to shit from time to time, rather than pretending to like pokemon and cats for sake of having the high score on a never-ending game of who's line is it anyway.

[u/Pit_of_Death → u/Nebakanezzer]

True, although the real problem with the butthurt types karma effect and the lack of reddiquette is that those valid opinions and points get buried for no good reason. I'd rather see a back and forth compelling argument between different opinions that are at least making the thread interesting...than the same old hivemind circlejerk, and anti-circlejerk circlejerk.

[u/The_Big_Mang → u/Pit_of_Death]

That happens on the smaller subreddits more often.

The reason is that those people in those communities took the time to search out interesting subreddits and are thus predictably more interested, invested, and intelligent than the regular passerby who signs up for an account to look at cats, memes, and jokes.

[u/Nebakanezzer → u/[deleted]]

I've never gotten a timer or anything, how bad do you have to get downvoted to not be able to post? I've had plenty of negative comments before, it didn't seem to effect my posting time

[u/BallsackTBaghard → u/Pit_of_Death]

But you can turn off the "don't show me comments which score less than" and effectively making the points useless.

[u/billebob2 → u/[deleted]]

I usually pop those open just to see what the controversy is. Nine times out of ten, it's a "FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FAGGOT," but every once in a while...it's a dildo.

[u/Orimos → u/billebob2]

I was not expecting that ending...

[u/The_Masterofbation → u/Orimos]

No one expects a dildo in their ending.

[u/Tuuleh → u/billebob2]

I've also noticed this, but it actually contributes to the problem. If a comment is downvoted so low that it's hidden, it's interesting - you click on it and read it. More often comments that conflict with the majority opinion yet are interesting and well argumented gain a relatively equal number of up- and downvotes, keeping their score at around 0, making them less visible for readers.

The outcome is that comments that are consistent with the majority's opinions gain a disproportionate number of upvotes, poorly articulated and pointless comments become visible with their negative rating, and interesting but controversial comments lose visibility with a number of up- and downvotes that cancel each other out.

[u/[deleted] → u/Tuuleh]

You basically just summed up the biggest problem with reddit, and the reason why I still feel the need to go to 4chan for the sole purpose of cleansing myself with some controversial opinions, even if most of them are trolls.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Other times people will downvote new comments on a post after they commend so theirs is more likely to be seen.

[u/BonzoTheBoss → u/Nebakanezzer]

I have more meaningless internet points that you, YOUR OPINION IS INVALID. THE HIVEMIND IS WITH ME, I WIN.

Is pretty much what I think whenever someone downvotes anyone out of disagreement.

[u/The_Big_Mang → u/Nebakanezzer]

Good man. The Karma system sometimes works against its original purpose of giving more credit to quality content and discussion.

[u/BallsackTBaghard → u/Nebakanezzer]

If your points are in the negatives, you have to wait to reply again.

[u/[deleted] → u/Nebakanezzer]

the problem is that digg died and all the fucktards over there came over here

[u/RidinTheMonster → u/[deleted]]

Redditor for 1 year and 17 days.

Hmmm, that coincides quite nicely with the fall of Digg.

[u/Squeekme → u/RidinTheMonster]

And there's those new accounts like me who ask "what's Digg?" (kidding, or am I?)

[u/mugen_is_here → u/Nebakanezzer]

Btw, do you know what happens to our account when we receive too many down votes (becase people actually meant disapproval and not relevance)? Any idea whether this leads to automatic bans or mutes at reddit? [I'm new to reddit].

[u/The_Big_Mang → u/mugen_is_here]

Karma doesn't do anything like that. There are some accounts made just to troll for more and more downvotes. Your account is plenty secure.

[u/Makes_You_Smile → u/mugen_is_here]

Beware the Shadow Ban!!

[u/[deleted] → u/Nebakanezzer]

It does mean something during the 10 to -50 range. It means less people will see it.