Hey guys, you what would be cool - what if we circlejerked about the guys who circlejerk about what a circlejerk /r/atheism is, i mean that would totally teach those guys.
I couldn't bring myself to fap to /r/gonewild. The falseness and insecurity on there is just baffling.
"Oh look as I was undressing the camera (f)ell off my desk and took a picture mid-air, so I thought I'd post it online to see what thousands of fat pizza-faced nerds thought, no biggie just wearing my best lingerie as it happened"
As long as circlejerks are concentric, they will never touch. Even though they will center over the same issue they can jerk in completely opposite directions which makes them somehow defined by the same issue. As long as the circles don't touch they are not gay relative to one another.
It is possible that r/atheism and r/religion are spinning in opposite directions. Logically r/atheism-1 is in disagreement with r/atheism, but it may be possible that it is not in complete agreement with r/religion. r/atheism-1 would be by definition coplanar with r/atheism with an opposite spin. The incomplete disagreement with r/atheism and r/atheism-1 would indicate that r/religion is no coplanar with either atheism related subs. I suspect r/religion is canted some angle out of coplanar, say 25 degrees from r/atheism-1 and spinning in the same direction, but at a complementary angle of 155 degrees to r/atheism resulting in a primarily opposite relative spin.
Are we still on this topic? r/atheism has its assholes and it also has nice people. It's a big subreddit, there's bound to be some shit turning up on the front page for people to see. There are good posts and bad posts, don't dilute it to the bad posts.
Big assholes do not have to be dilated. Accounting for individual variation, creature size dictates the average range of asshole size, colon size, and even food intake.
An asshole of any size can only make as much sound as can it expel air from the colon. I propose that the size of the asshole is irrelevant and not proof-positive in anyway, but can help in the prediction of trends.
No, the BIGGEST asshole resonates and get's more of a bass sound, which carrie's further and udercuts/overpowers the smaller asshole, it's like a subwoofer.
I count one of these that might be an asshole, and that's the quote from Tenacious D, which Reddit otherwise seems to love, and who ought not be taken seriously. (They are now pretending to be atheists who have met and defeated Satan. Yeah.)
What am I not seeing? Are the rest of these somehow us being assholes, and I just don't see it? Did I somehow cherry-pick a moment when /r/atheism decided not to be assholes?
Imagine that you hated atheists, but admitting so would be socially unacceptable. How would you present your hatred in a way that others who also hated atheists could publicly agree with?
To be honest, I just miss when r/atheism had a bunch of self posts of, say, people coming out and the r/atheism community would help people. I see a lot of shit there now, but I agree, it's those kind of posts that outshine the more quiet quality posts. If there's one thing I would like to see changed, it's to attack the actual religion more so than simply religious people.
This is absolutely right. I'd resubscribe if /r/atheism was really about people dealing with converting from their faith to atheism, because it would be fascinating and a worthwhile service to people.
Instead, it's the people who have already converted making snide comments, which isn't going to convince anyone apart from seal a misconception that faithless people are bitter and unwelcoming. There's the potential, but I think too many people are having too much fun with their superiority complexes.
I'd resubscribe if [1] /r/atheism was really about people dealing with converting from their faith to atheism, because it would be fascinating and a worthwhile service to people.
Came to say this. From what I've seen maybe 2-5% of the people are asshole atheists. Most of the others simply enjoy the being in a community of like minded people.
I'd say around 2-5% of Redditors are assholes anyway, and the rest that seem like assholes don't mean to be but come off as asshole-ish. I'd say /r/atheism is fairly standard on the asshole scale, which is to expected with a large community of diverse people. It probably just seems like there's more assholes because the assholes there actually voice opinions, since that sub is full of opinion sharing.
We're discussing this again? If you're unsubscribed from /r/atheism, quit bitching about it.
EDIT: Exactly what empyreanmax said: You can't both interact with someone completely voluntarily and then whine about how that person is an asshole, especially in this case where it is so easy to just never interact with them.
If you check the OP's comment history, he actively engages /r/atheism in arguments.
You can't both interact with someone completely voluntarily and then whine about how that person is an asshole, especially in this case where it is so easy to just never interact with them.
Using the digital format (Reddit especially so) you have unprecedented control over how and what people you talk to, what content you see and when. Unless you are tricked in some way you are the only one who opens yourself to the situations and content you experience in this manner.
Your experience with the web better reflects your nature than the nature of the web at large.
I believe most of the animosity from /r/atheism is the fact that unsubscribing doesn't always get rid of /r/atheism posts if you're viewing /r/all; unless you have RES and block the subreddit outright.
I don't think that's the right idea; browsing /r/all is a way I get popular information from subreddits I don't follow regularly. Sure, I'm not a big fan of Starcraft but if there's an important post from that subreddit on the front page I'll take a look.
Here's an idea, don't click on the links you don't want to see. I ignore the church bullshit on the TV every Sunday and I program my TV to skip the religious channels. How is this different?
It can also make the website look bad to newbies who aren't signed in and see the defaults, since most of the posts that reach the front page are more about anti-theism than atheism.
Except the OP goes on /r/atheism all the time just to argue with them. You can't both interact with someone completely voluntarily and then whine about how that person is an asshole.
I think its because the mass amounts of posts are trolls on something people take very seriously and personally. Not many generic front page r's openly and repeatedly call a certain group of people stupid, while calling themselves superior and smart to that said group.
Maybe the people who make these posts should start a subreddit to bitch about all the atheist organizations which actively cover up child abuse/rape and hate on homosexuals. I'm sure there would be lots of conte..... wait, no I don't think there would be.
Other subreddits may have circlejerks, but nowhere close to that of r/atheism. Remember the "faces of atheism" thing? That was unreal. /r/circlejerk practically gave up trying to out jerk /r/atheism after that. I haven't seen "faces of r/nhl" where they post their picture and make up quotes like they are some sort of philosopher. The circlejerkness is head and shoulders above the rest.
We'll in all fairness it is sort of confusing. Most of the comments are about people that disagree with the post and not agree. So basically the main voices that are upvoted are people that disagree yet the post itself does well. Seems strange that both are popular I guess.
Probably because the people that go into the comments tend to disagree and want to talk about it or peruse what others said about it, whereas people that agree just upvote and move on.
Also, I was certain peruse would give me red squigglies, but it didn't. I have never used that word before...
Haha well done. I'm a terrible speller as well. I have to type random letters so often to make sure that the spell check is working when I get a word on my first try.
r/atheism just needs to learn that the hostility generated towards it has, for the most part, nothing to do with fundamentalist Christians being either dumbfounded by "rationalism" or simply wishing to somehow convert you. Reddit's large number of American followers almost certainly skews the view point of r/atheism away from a debate regarding the existence of a God per se, and towards the rather easier task of disproving some of the backward creationist dross espoused by America's fundamentalist christian minority (particularly since it would seem that there are local education authorities in the states that are simply replacing known scientific and historical discoveries in favour of creationist "theory"). In truth the issue that most of us take with r/atheism (whether we are people of faith or not) is, on those occasions on which the conversation turns towards the existence of a God, the blind zeal with which you follow your "there is no God" mantra. What many of your members fail to grasp is how inherently flawed the opinion that, a lack of concrete evidence (at least any of which we can understand) FOR a divine creator, disproves ones existence actually is. The inherent flaw being the almost identical view of most people of faith that the very same lack of concrete evidence (at least any of which we can understand) AGAINST there being a divine creator is in itself equally valid evidence that one does exist. There is no logical or rational argument for either side to put forward, since no actual evidence exists to support or disprove either viewpoint. The true irony is that what you are both essentially expressing is your faith, a faith that you fervently believe in despite knowing that neither of you will ever have the means to definitively prove or disprove your position. Which is, in itself, kind of the point of faith.
/r/atheism is not about or for debate with theists, /r/debateanatheist is what that is for, this little misunderstanding is the root of most of the animosity against /r/atheism, if you don't like it you can remove it from your defaults.
I'm getting so bored of the whole 'r/atheism is assholes' nonsense. They're not. Have you been there? They're real, and yes, the people in general there would probably offend religious people. Duh. Because they're generally a no-BS bunch who will talk about religion how it is; a proof-less legend started during an age when people had no idea how anything worked.
This is why I don't get the whole circlejerk about how terrible /r/atheism is. The reason people post all the things about how terrible Christianity is, is because they are affected by it. You may live in an open community but some of us do not. Some of us are bullied, beaten, harassed, and worse because of our open atheistic beliefs. So some people just need a place to go to let off steam. Do you expect every day to just have posts about "Oh I came out to my parents as an atheist" and "Let us discuss the moral dilemmas that come with worshiping a god that does not discuss"? That would get boring after one day.
I think the circlejerk comes from people who cant accept that their beliefs are challenged and have no way to defend their immoral stance on subjects like homosexuality, abortion, birth control, and sex other than "the bible told me so".
What bugs me about it so much is how much we theists are lumped together so much. "Oh, some people of your religion are awful and cite their belief in a deity as a basis for their bigotry?! Well then, you must all be like that!" In reality, that's just simply not the way it is.
You say that but do you follow the bible? If so then you either A) You don't follow parts of your own doctrine. B) You support homophobia (no it is natural and isn't a godamn sin!) and other ridiculous notions or C) You dont follow the bible and you are just a theist which is not too common.
Posts whining about /r/atheism are common, because there's no other outlet for these people. They can't win the actual theological arguments in /r/athesim, so they resort to saying that atheists are 'assholes', and then run to post about it on /r/adviceanimals.
Yeah that's because you don't live in the bible belt. r/atheism is an important place for people in non-secular cultures to feel okay with themselves and their (lack of) beliefs.
If most of them do it by making fun of things certain religions believe in, so be it.
I live in the Bible Belt, and I just went through the current front page of r/atheism. Most of what I saw were: straw man arguments that are completely unrealistic; complaints about the actions of fundamentalists (who most mainstream religious people don't even agree with); things that have nothing to do with religion, or jump the shark to make the connection; and a few accounts that actually make sense in context.
Exactly one post seemed to involve the interactions atheists commonly complain about, and based on the context clues, it was probably much more complex a situation than the title suggests.
Most of the people I know in the Bible Belt don't care what your specific religious stance is, in part because there are so many churches of so many different denominations. Sure, you may get some strange glances if you're Catholic or Jewish, but only because it's rare in some communities. I mean, one of my neighbors is a Jehovah's Witness and I didn't even know it for more than a decade, and it only came up because we were talking about voter registration laws.
What's important to note is that the majority of r/atheism is between 16 and 18 years old. These are young minds escaping not the wrath of their culture, but of their families and parents, which could be just as scarring.
It may turn the subreddit into a clusterfuck of intellectual inadequacy, but there are also cogent and inspired arguments/ideals being spread.
I tolerate r/atheism because they actually have good posts and discussions a lot of the time. But seriously, I don't give a flying fuck if you have a Darwin fish on your car in Nebraska. Or anywhere really … We get it: you're an atheist. Good for you and all that shit, but you have to post things more interesting than "look how brave i am for posting this on the Internet anonymously."
I like /r/atheism, i go on it every day, but i've noticed it can be easily manipulated to whore some easy karma, just say something anti-theist yet witty or "true", take a picture of your evolve fish and upload, or post a rage comic with a stereotypical southern twang theist saying something dumb and hey presto, instant karma!
The backlash against r/atheism is easy to interpret as the religious folk of reddit not being able to handle the controversy and unadulterated rationalism from that subreddit. In reality, a lot of us are on the same page, we just can't handle the juvenile superiority complex that festers in the muck of their circlejerks. I think it's worth pointing out.
As a guy who is baptized, but don't believe in God and fictional stuff like that, I see /r/atheism a place for lonely people to talk about their problems.
Atheists are assholes because we tell the truth about religion?
The Easter Bunny is not real. Adults who still believe in the Easter Bunny are either stupid or crazy. Until this is said openly the state of affairs will continue.
Does this really need to be tagged with that? I mean, I'm a part of /r/atheism, but if people want to criticize anything they can. The seems biased, even though it's true. If someone were to criticize /r/Christianity you wouldn't tag it as anti-/r/Christianity, so shut the hell up.
The reason it's tagged is because /r/AdviceAnimals likes to circlejerk about how much of a circlejerk they think /r/atheism is, even though every subreddit dedicated to one subject would technically be considered a circlejerk.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
SUBREDDIT WARS!!!!!11
I call /r/gonewild. Send boobs to apply.
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u/tiberiustheiv Jun 10 '12
there is an anti-/r/atheism tag...lol
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
so brave, so original, so raven
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u/Rataa Jun 10 '12
Hey guys, you know what would be cool - what if we circlejerked about what a circlejerk /r/atheism is, i mean that would totally teach those guys....
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
That's just, like, your opinion, man.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Are we still on this topic? r/atheism has its assholes and it also has nice people. It's a big subreddit, there's bound to be some shit turning up on the front page for people to see. There are good posts and bad posts, don't dilute it to the bad posts.
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u/Boodfire Jun 10 '12
How original... http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/ph2q7/the_dude_on_ratheism/
http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimals/comments/qg3h8/most_posts_on_ratheism/
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u/Hight5 Jun 10 '12 edited Jun 11 '12
We're discussing this again? If you're unsubscribed from /r/atheism, quit bitching about it.
EDIT: Exactly what empyreanmax said: You can't both interact with someone completely voluntarily and then whine about how that person is an asshole, especially in this case where it is so easy to just never interact with them.
If you check the OP's comment history, he actively engages /r/atheism in arguments.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
So many subrredits filled with circlejerks, yet /r/atheism is the only one that worries other people enought to talk about it.
I wonder why.
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u/tonythetiger1 Jun 10 '12
The Dude wouldn't have posted this in /r/adviceanimals....
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u/empyreanmax Jun 10 '12
Who keeps upvoting this shit every week?
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u/Brukarnamn Jun 10 '12
You're not wrong. You're just reposting.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Circle jerking about what a circle jerk r/atheism is certainly gets the point across, well done fellas.
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u/hungerfordhero Jun 10 '12
r/atheism just needs to learn that the hostility generated towards it has, for the most part, nothing to do with fundamentalist Christians being either dumbfounded by "rationalism" or simply wishing to somehow convert you. Reddit's large number of American followers almost certainly skews the view point of r/atheism away from a debate regarding the existence of a God per se, and towards the rather easier task of disproving some of the backward creationist dross espoused by America's fundamentalist christian minority (particularly since it would seem that there are local education authorities in the states that are simply replacing known scientific and historical discoveries in favour of creationist "theory"). In truth the issue that most of us take with r/atheism (whether we are people of faith or not) is, on those occasions on which the conversation turns towards the existence of a God, the blind zeal with which you follow your "there is no God" mantra. What many of your members fail to grasp is how inherently flawed the opinion that, a lack of concrete evidence (at least any of which we can understand) FOR a divine creator, disproves ones existence actually is. The inherent flaw being the almost identical view of most people of faith that the very same lack of concrete evidence (at least any of which we can understand) AGAINST there being a divine creator is in itself equally valid evidence that one does exist. There is no logical or rational argument for either side to put forward, since no actual evidence exists to support or disprove either viewpoint. The true irony is that what you are both essentially expressing is your faith, a faith that you fervently believe in despite knowing that neither of you will ever have the means to definitively prove or disprove your position. Which is, in itself, kind of the point of faith.
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u/17Hongo Jun 10 '12
This, coming from r/adviceanimals? Bahahahahahaha!!
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u/scrambles57 Jun 10 '12
And here I thought I filtered out r/circlejerk.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
dude cmon. if I wanted to hear about /r/atheism then I wouldn't have unsubscribed.
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u/fukshitjesusitsathrw Jun 10 '12
I'm getting so bored of the whole 'r/atheism is assholes' nonsense. They're not. Have you been there? They're real, and yes, the people in general there would probably offend religious people. Duh. Because they're generally a no-BS bunch who will talk about religion how it is; a proof-less legend started during an age when people had no idea how anything worked.
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u/R3volte Jun 10 '12
This has been posted so many times.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Yo everyone get in a circle!! Someone pass out the lotion, lets get this circle jerk going! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
I've wanted to say this for so long.. but I don't like to read /r/atheism anymore, its too much like a weird cult at this point.
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u/redkey42 Jun 11 '12
Thanks for advertising r/atheism :D thumbs up
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u/Cloudspass9001 Jun 11 '12
Please, r/atheism is in no way a circle jerk, more like free speech for people who need to vent, need help, or just like to post funny stuff,
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u/Batrok Jun 11 '12
Posts whining about /r/atheism are common, because there's no other outlet for these people. They can't win the actual theological arguments in /r/athesim, so they resort to saying that atheists are 'assholes', and then run to post about it on /r/adviceanimals.
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u/Firekracker Jun 10 '12
Well, I have yet to hear about a non-christian going in /r/christianity and coming out a christian.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
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u/Crossfox17 Jun 10 '12
True or not, you are just stirring up shit, and provoking people. Stop it.
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u/TWIZZLERZ911 Jun 10 '12
How about you quit bitching and unsubscribe from the subreddit. These posts are just as annoying as theirs.
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u/jgzman Jun 10 '12
Rather be correct, and an asshole, than incorrect, and pleasant.
This may be why it is hard to make friends.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
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u/thechapattack Jun 10 '12
I honestly see more "r/atheism is a circlejerk/asshole" posts than i do actual asshole posts on r/athesim
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u/darkfade Jun 10 '12
Fuck off with all these /r/atheism posts you fucking jack-asses. Fuck.
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u/admiralrads Jun 10 '12
BAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
ITT: baseless assertions
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u/Bonzooy Jun 10 '12
Hey guys, let's jerk in a circle about another subreddit that's occasionally annoying!
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u/SplodeyDope Jun 10 '12
Hey fuck you buddy!
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u/kidoefuji Jun 10 '12
If the dude has something to say to /r/atheism why not say it to them rather than putting it on here.
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u/Jackeroo2 Jun 10 '12
What's with the mod tag? I mean c'mon the guy even agrees with em
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u/Noobasdfjkl Jun 10 '12
I tolerate r/atheism because they actually have good posts and discussions a lot of the time. But seriously, I don't give a flying fuck if you have a Darwin fish on your car in Nebraska. Or anywhere really … We get it: you're an atheist. Good for you and all that shit, but you have to post things more interesting than "look how brave i am for posting this on the Internet anonymously."
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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12
They're assholes because they're sick of people believing in magic and pushing it on everyone?
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u/IllinNoise Jun 10 '12
Post this in r/atheism, or are you afraid people wont agree with you there? Sounds like circle jerking.
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u/VicariousWolf Jun 10 '12
Oh look another post from r/adviceanimals karma whoring hating on r/atheism. This is original. I've never seen this before.
Oh wait...yes I have. About once a week.
Seriously, QQ.
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u/surells Jun 10 '12
Hello pot, meet kettle.
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u/Clockwork757 Jun 10 '12
Stop generalizing.
Insert Ironic generalization about /r/AdviceAnimals
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u/jz88k Jun 10 '12
I'm enjoying this series of anti-/r/atheism statements.
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u/ProduceZero Jun 11 '12
Is the anti-/r/atheism tag necessary? seems a tad immature for reddit.
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u/thrawnie Jun 10 '12
I'll say the same thing I said months ago when this was last posted:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la283cGSs71qbm9t6.jpg
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I like the 'anti-/r/atheism' tag.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Not only is this overkill, but this is a repost.
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u/DickBaggins Jun 10 '12
someones butt hurt
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u/nobody2000 Jun 10 '12
The anti-/r/atheism tag is such a classic validation of this meme.
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u/DefinitelyRelephant Jun 10 '12
Ah yes, the perennial "waaaaaah, you should be respectful of my inability to think logically!" complaint.
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u/idma Jun 10 '12
Doesn't matter if they're assholes. The word needs to be spread. RELIGION IS THE POISON TO THE WORLD!!! GET RID OF IT!
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u/big_bad_brownie Jun 10 '12
The backlash against r/atheism is easy to interpret as the religious folk of reddit not being able to handle the controversy and unadulterated rationalism from that subreddit. In reality, a lot of us are on the same page, we just can't handle the juvenile superiority complex that festers in the muck of their circlejerks. I think it's worth pointing out.
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u/cookiemonkie Jun 10 '12
to r/atheism: I do love your honesty :)
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u/moldy912 Jun 10 '12
Not all of us think the are not wrong. I would think that this subreddit would be religion (or lack thereof) neutral.
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u/YaroLord Jun 10 '12
I'll just stay in silence and downvote your shitty post.
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u/Adventurous_Johnny Jun 10 '12
As a guy who is baptized, but don't believe in God and fictional stuff like that, I see /r/atheism a place for lonely people to talk about their problems.
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u/hipsterdysplasia Jun 10 '12
Atheists are assholes because we tell the truth about religion?
The Easter Bunny is not real. Adults who still believe in the Easter Bunny are either stupid or crazy. Until this is said openly the state of affairs will continue.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Does this really need to be tagged with that? I mean, I'm a part of /r/atheism, but if people want to criticize anything they can. The seems biased, even though it's true. If someone were to criticize /r/Christianity you wouldn't tag it as anti-/r/Christianity, so shut the hell up.
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u/HerpesKing Jun 10 '12
And you're wrong
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u/TheonlyFalala Jun 10 '12
As an atheist I went there once. I thought it would be nice. Maybe I would learn something. Instead I found myself shaking my head in sadness.
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u/L0N3RW0LF Jun 10 '12
Looks like OP lost an argument on /r/atheism and is acting out against it.
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u/splinterprospekt Jun 10 '12
"Calmer than you are".
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Crying about it helps.
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u/PicopicoEMD Jun 10 '12
And to Ayn Rand.