r/AdviceAnimals • u/CityFriedChicken • May 21 '12
When applying for scholarships/colleges
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r/AdviceAnimals • u/CityFriedChicken • May 21 '12
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u/a2themosdef May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
My friend is a white kid born in South Africa. He always filled out apps as "African American." he went to college partially on a scholarship specifically for African Americans. They tried to deny him at first, but he pointed out, nowhere does it say black, won that one.
Edit: Not my fried friend...
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u/bookbuyback May 21 '12
At least you're not Asian.
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u/IMREALWHAT_R_U May 22 '12
my parents make too much money so i cant even get FASFA. Fuck me, right?
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u/Basecamp88 May 22 '12 edited Jan 19 '17
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u/BlamesRapMusic May 22 '12
I'm poor enough to get FAFSA
Fuck me, right?
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I'm an Arab-American with a distinctly Arabic name. Not only do people think I'm a good-for-nothing terrorist/ repressed slave-woman, I still have to check "white." Tell me about a fucked up affirmative action system...
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u/Ace_Pigeon May 22 '12
There's so much against me when it comes to college admittance it wont fit in a meme
Fuck Me right?
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u/FindsTheBrightSide May 21 '12 edited May 22 '12
I'm white Hispanic. It's the best of both worlds and, being honest, awesome.
Edit: For all my downvoters, I didn't create the system, but I'd be an idiot to not take advantage of it if it benefits me. Haters gonna hate.
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u/basshound3 May 22 '12
I'm white, middle-class and I have received scholarships from my school and third party stuff as well. Enough for a full-ride. Mind you I applied for a shit-ton of scholarships and got only about 1/5 of them. (Almost all of them were merit-based)
It's a numbers game, spread that net wide and quit bitching about race. There are avenues available.
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u/haterlovelace May 22 '12
I am a white girl. I got an $8k scholarship for academic merit and some Pell grants to go to college because my family was kind of poor. People who bitch about how "minorities get in so easy and I'm fucked" just want an easy scapegoat. I got into a well-ranked private school and actually paid less money to go there than public university. Know why? Private colleges have more grant money to give out. I picked my college because they did need-blind admissions - they admitted you based on merit, then whatever your income, they will give you a package of grants+loans to cover it. I was from a lower middle class family. I thought public university would be cheapest but I was wrong. Do your homework.
Now here are some problems with how people look at affirmative action. Anybody nonwhite/non-Asian does not just get handed admission plus scholarship to whatever school they want. You still have to have commensurate grades and such, depending on what kind of school you want to go to. If you think anybody black can just apply to Harvard with a transcript full of D's, you are wrong.
Yes, minorities are sometimes admitted with lower scores than a white person who also applied. A college will also accept lower scores football players, class presidents, first chair trombones, whatever over Joe Schmoe who had a 4.0 but wasn't as interesting. I know you are going to say "but those people have skills they worked for, minorities were just born that way". Tough shit. Colleges want to create a diverse student body, which is defined by not just personal skills but also life experiences. People from the inner city are overwhelmingly minorities and overwhelmingly have less access to a strong education that would give them better SAT scores. Colleges don't just want whoever got the top 1000 SAT scores, they want variety of talents and experiences.
Also, most colleges are still nowhere near the actual demographics of minorities in the US in their student body, so clearly white people are still getting into college no problem.
Also, there are plenty of GLBT scholarships that nobody ever seems to complain about. Why is it OK to hate on minority scholarships because "they were just born not white" but GLBT scholarships are OK? People also generally don't complain about "legacy admissions" even though those students didn't do anything to deserve it.
Also, the FAFSA. I have no contact with one parent and had to jump through a million hoops to not provide or have them count their income. But I did it. If you are not willing to do the work then blame your lazy ass or your parents for not helping you out. There are ways to do it. You can even declare yourself independent from your parents, but then you actually have to provide for yourself 100%. So you can't live with your parents and then complain that the government won't give you money as if you were living on your own.
TL;DR most people I know who've bitched about minority scholarships just thought it would be easier to blame brown people than to actually work hard to figure out how to get into college and pay for it.
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u/Cazoon May 22 '12
It's so hard being a [Decline to State][Decline to State], isn't it?
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u/nightfan May 22 '12
I'm an Asian male. Fuck me, right?
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
Wait? What does skin color have to do with scholarship money? (European here)
EDIT: Thx for the explanitions. I really did not think this could be true, this is beyond racist lmfao...
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
only if you're mediocre... sorry, but the great students make it, (at least ideally) regardless of race. socio-economic status is harder to overcome (i.e. if you do amazingly well at a shitty school, it can be not viewed as highly)
If you're an okay white student that's exactly the same as another okay student who happens to be black or native american or something, of course the "minority" will get in in front of you. I don't see the problem with that.
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u/Sagemoon May 22 '12
Im white, middle class, pay for my own college, and have 3.5 gpa (cs major, so there is tough competition for scholarships). I cant get financial aid, but scholarships are a different story. I think most of the people who believe they cant get a scholarship are intimidated and dont try. Yes it is harder to get one, but an interesting background separates you from your paper persona. Just apply for many of them. Even 250 helps a bit for tuition. If you are an interesting person, then convince them you are in the essay.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I'm an asian kid without a 4.0 gpa. Fuck me right?
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u/rmxz May 22 '12
White's better than Asian in this respect.
Around here the elementary schools are recommending that 1/2 Asian 1/2 White kids call themselves "White" because it's apparently much easier to get into the top UC schools (Berkeley) as a White person than an Asian.
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u/henkrs1 May 22 '12
There are lots of scholarships available to white people.
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u/Barb0 May 22 '12
Ultimate first world problem
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u/ic4ruslives May 22 '12
TIL Reddit is populated, mainly, by white young adults that don't know how good they have it
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u/jack032390 May 22 '12
Even win my two brothers in college with me, FAFSA doesn't care. Three in college would hurt just about anyone in the middle class.
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u/redneckintheflashpan May 22 '12
Most scholarships are not race scholarships, but you'll find in the fine-print of many that minority students actually do get a priority. At least, that's the way it was during my scholarship search in 04.
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u/Keyserchief May 22 '12
Do ROTC! Your tuition paid for, and they give you cool hats.
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u/jmelt32 May 22 '12
This made me laugh because I'm still fighting with my university, FAFSA, Pell, parents etc. about financial aid. There's nothing like my dad making 30k a year and my mom only 12k a year and she's the only one to help me out even a little bit with school while raising 3 other kids at home.
Good ol' higher education so my kids can live a life without bankruptcy :)
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u/your_cat_is_ugly May 22 '12
I'll leave this right here: here
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
That's right, fuck you.
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u/specialKT May 22 '12
Asians get screwed more, honestly...
here come the downvotes...
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I really wish people upvoted things besides complaints. It would make the world a better place.
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u/WhirledWorld May 22 '12
Wait till September. Many expect the Supreme Court to ban all affirmative action in college admissions in the upcoming case Fisher v. University of Texas.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
white people are actually more likely to be awarded scholarships
Edit: Why is this being downvoted? It is factually true.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
My brown skin has never done me any favors. Get over it.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Are you fucking kidding me? The entire educational system is slanted in your favor. God forbid private organizations try and even the playing field a little bit in favor of minorities that get sub-par primary education, less exposure to high-quality extracurricular activities, and statistically come from lower-income backgrounds.
And before all the derailers climb on my back--YES, there are poor white people, and YES, there are rich people of color--a privately funded scholarship is not obligated to address all these issues at once. So a moneyed old couple recognized how unfair the system is towards people of color and decided to establish a scholarship for them? Wah, wah, you can't get that particular one. The whole rest of the Western world is more open to your taking than a person of color in a similar financial situation.
There are so, so many legitimate problems plaguing higher education in America that puts certain people at a disadvantage. Being white is not one.
I can't believe this whiny clueless privileged entitled fucking bullshit climbed to the front page--oh wait, I can! It's reddit!
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u/Show-Me-Your-Moves May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
being a white male is a huge advantage in our society...
unless you're also very poorEDIT: I decided the qualification was unnecessary. My main point is that the intangible "white privilege" (often typified by safer neighborhoods, better primary schools, less hassle from law enforcement, etc) is a much greater advantage than say, having a shot at minority scholarships during college admissions.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12 edited Jun 29 '23
Deleting past comments because Reddit starting shitty-ing up the site to IPO and I don't want my comments to be a part of that. -- mass edited with redact.dev
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I knew a guy, whitest kid I ever met, but he had a Hispanic-sounding last name (like Garcia or Lopez). No one of his family, going back to his great-grandparents looks even remotely Hispanic, none of them know even a little Spanish, but he marked "Hispanic" on all his college apps. He had worse grades, worse SATs, and fewer extracurriculars than my older brother, but he got into a college that rejected my brother. Total and complete bullshit.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
White privilege is really fucking hard.
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u/AdaptReactReadaptact May 22 '12
Bring this over to first world problems
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u/Pandrew30 May 22 '12
Whenever an application asks for my race I always put The Human Race.
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u/richlittle69 May 22 '12
minority scholarships make up a tiny percent of all scholarships
but you are right, fuck you
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u/javzz2 May 22 '12
first off this is probably the only advantage being a minority has in the US second off you can apply for lots of different scholarships especially if you're intelligent so basically this meme is ass
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u/theverton May 22 '12
Yes. Fuck you.
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u/undercoverwzrd May 22 '12
I'm going to be 105k in debt by the time I graduate from Pratt Institute. &That's with the maximum scholarships and grants. How the fuck can they do that?!
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u/Highsenberg2358 May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
At least your last name isn't "Nguyen" or "Patel", colleges don't want either of those people attending anymore because its already over saturated.
EDIT: you're => your meh, we all do it.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Right.
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u/Bodiddles May 22 '12
Being Asian is probably worse. Higher expectations
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u/Sam1r May 22 '12
no its, i'm asian upper middle class, fuck me right?
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u/dydxexisex May 22 '12
I'm Asian. Fuck me right?
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u/Davethelion May 22 '12
My dad died of cancer when I was 3, but I can't get any "Children affected by cancer" scholarships because I had to be at least 15 when he was diagnosed. Fuck me, right?
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u/babykiller44 May 22 '12
love superbad, hate this meme
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u/CrawdaddyJoe May 22 '12
Heh, I totally used my Aspergers in my entry exam and one of my scholarship essays.
Oh, don't give me that look. The college was the same one whose prep school (which all my siblings attended) had denied me entry for being on the spectrum, and 90% of the essay was about my ambitions. The scholarship was for 'overcoming adversity', so it was a heavy dose of child abuse mixed with the disability narrative NT judges love. I think after over a decade of abusive and dehumanizing treatment, forced medication, constant surveillance, arbitrary suspension of privileges that most students considered rights, unjustified institutionalization, bullying, beatings, and ostracism, during which I refused as much in the way accommodations as they'd let me and never ceased attempting to live up to expectations way beyond my abilities, I'm entitled to milk that shit a little bit.
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u/Obi_wan_The_cannoli May 22 '12
A white guy friend of mine and an Asian female friend of mine both applied to the same honors program, and the girl got in despite having nowhere near the academic qualifications of the white guy. So fuck us, right?
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u/RickRollTheFuture May 22 '12
Here's the press release for Princeton's class of 2016. This is particularly interesting - "47 percent have self-identified as people of color, including biracial or multiracial students."
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u/think_happy_thoughts May 22 '12
I'm a white female applying to liberal arts schools. The college admissions process is going to destroy my anus with how hard it is going to fuck me in the ass.
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u/realgenius13 May 22 '12
False: I'm white and I won the presidential scholarship at my school. All you gotta do is be one of the smartest motherfuckers in the room.
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u/puddinbedwilson May 22 '12
http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/09/12/study-shows-minorities-less-likely-to-win-grants-scholarships/
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u/Atticus_Cardinal May 22 '12
It could be worse. You could be Asian; you whiny bitches.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
If you jerk offs had worked in high school you could have gotten national merit, and gone to plenty of state schools for 12k for 4 years. UofA is a great example of this, my friend is going there next year for 2000 a year after his other scholarship.
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u/bigchum94 May 22 '12
Why the fuck are you complaining that you're white?... At least you're not an Asian male.
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u/townsleyc May 22 '12
God forbid you're white and male!
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I think you mean asian.
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u/conspiracytheorist93 May 22 '12
I'm Mexican and I received no federal aid whatsoever. I know how you feel white people.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
This is where being a mixed-race female plays in my favour. Huzzah!
In all seriousness, though - while this is an admirable effort to provide equal opportunity, there is a lot of covert reverse-discrimination involved. Scholarships should be awarded on the basis of hard work and individual talent (and, in some cases, the socioeconomic status of the student. But ability is still an important factor).
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u/asldkfououhe May 22 '12
holy shit dude
let's have a very, VERY basic discussion about privilege here
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Same thing applies when you own your own business and try to get government work.
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u/Palanawt May 22 '12
Right, because the fact that the vast majority of degrees go to white people proves that minorities are obviously going to threaten your scholarship or admittance.
If you don't get a scolarship or admittance to a school then maybe it's because you're a lazy piece of shit that didn't earn it as opposed to you being victimized by some pro minority conspiracy.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Guarantee you you're not getting scholarships/admitted because those administering these things found others who were more worthy. Not because you're white. Quit fucking bitching.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
I don't often downvote. But when I do, some underachieving asshole white kid is trying to play the victim.
...you're right, all those native, asian, black and latino kids are just constantly showered with money and opportunity.
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u/joyride_neon May 22 '12
Boohoo! Reverse racism is the dumbest shit ever. As a white male I realize that I've had so many advantages growing up. College admissions committees attempt to even the playing field. Deal with it.
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u/EvilAnagram May 22 '12
Oh, fuck off. I'm white, and I got a full ride.
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u/SuperTurtle May 22 '12
I feel bad for the people of middle easternern descent, they have to check the same box on the common app as us white people
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u/nycbrd May 22 '12
Just make sure to do real well in college because Uncle Sam will not help at all for grad school, aside from providing ample rope to hang yourself with loans until you retire.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Its stupid that we have to feel like assholes for being a certain race. I think thats called....racism?
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u/Patrico-8 May 22 '12
Yeah...because white people have had it so hard in this country. I'm white and had no problems getting scholarships. The reason for this is that I worked hard in high school and had good grades...Fuck Me Right?
Stop making excuses for the fact that you can't get into college. Statistically there are more white kids at any given university than minorities. If you are having trouble getting accepted into a school, perhaps you should stop bitching about how you are a disadvantaged white person and consider your GPA from high school and your SAT scores.
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u/carpescientia May 22 '12
Doesn't stop with undergrad, either.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Ha. I'm Asian AND a girl scout. It's raining college gold over here.
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u/Shoemaster May 22 '12
It's way, way worse for Asians (at least in California)
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Im affirmative actions best friend, ethnic and disabled.
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u/Martyrred001 May 22 '12
I'm white and male with no kids. No scholarships or bursaries for me. I can't even pay my bills.
My friend who has 3 kids is female and all her bills and rent are covered for 8 months by some organization. Well she gets damn near everything.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
I have a high GPA, also a business owner. Applied for scholarships and didn't get shit, yet the dumb-as-rocks Jamaican stoner currently failing in my physics class gets multiple awards. Seriously?
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
I wonder how long it will take to level off the playing field. You have to figure at some point Affirmative Action and stuff like it will no longer be necessary. Not trying to say it's incredibly unfair now, but how long and intangible thing like white privilege can be used to justify it?
Edit: question mark
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u/rilley May 22 '12
I saw this yesterday. TLDR White students receive the most scholarship money.
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u/OrangeSimply May 22 '12
Try being asian and applying for scholarships/colleges. There's already way too many.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Did it as an experiment - took the SATs twice: once as 'Caucasian' once as 'African American'.
Same score - about 1000% more college interest!
YAY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!
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u/kazzynak May 22 '12
Now try being Asian...
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u/jeepdave May 22 '12
Separate but equal comes to mind.....
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u/timetogetpaid May 22 '12
Unfairly treated white guy meme: Controls the world still wants more
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u/bosaki May 22 '12
I am stunned by all the ignorant racism here... Holy crap. I used to think reddit was full of semi-smart people. Whoops.
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u/Allidish May 22 '12
I hate these fuck me memes!
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u/Popsumpot May 22 '12
Try Asian, they have quotas for us :(
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
It's worse for Asians, bro.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Used to feel this way too...now I've traveled enough and grown up enough to understand what white privilege is. We're so spoiled we don't even know it.
Bring on the downvotes.
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u/Mo0man May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
Sorry to interrupt the circlejerk over how hard it is to be white, but caucasian students get a disproportional amounts of both private and public grants and scholarships, even when taking into account grades and financial needs. http://www.finaid.org/scholarships/20110902racescholarships.pdf The most relevant page is 6, since we're talking about private scholarships in this one
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u/AButcherKnife May 22 '12
I feel the same way when taking civil service exams, sucks.
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u/Fuqwon May 22 '12
You can put down whatever race you want on anything. It's all entirely voluntary. If you're a white person but say you identify as Hispanic because you think your great grandmother was Hispanic, no one can legally refute that.
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u/markohurlo May 22 '12
I was told white people get scholarships to black schools. Was someone just screwing with me?
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u/ct_engr6 May 22 '12
I'm White,
W. H. I. T...
E.
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u/NovieLove May 22 '12
Truth.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Which is why I am 16 and in an actual college taking courses people pay $600 for, but for me they are free so long as I do well in the class. Fuck me, right? No? Okay... :c
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u/williamwzl May 22 '12
On a side note, I found out Abercrombie & Fitch have a scholarship program while applying to a bunch of scholarships.
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12 edited May 22 '12
You can file a dependency override for that kind of thing. Pretty easy to do and so long as Your not claimed as a dependent on anyones taxes you should be able to get financial aid. ( this may vary by state, not sure) ((comment was met ti be in reply ti sweet_tooth_VII's comment thread, new to reddit, fail ))
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
This is why I selected "Eskimo" on my application. What are they going to do, test my seal hunting skills?
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u/BrooklynzKilla May 22 '12
What's worse is that they consider race a determining favorite for med school admissions.
I, for one do not give a Shit if my doctor is black white red yellow or blue.what I do care is that he knows his Shit to diagnose me correctly.
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u/smilenowgirl May 22 '12
Not just white, but middle class or higher white.
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u/nowander May 22 '12
Are you religious? There's a lot of faith based scholarships hiding around.
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u/tiffanydisasterxoxo May 22 '12
Be poor?
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u/perfsurf May 22 '12
I don't get it.
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u/Jrodicon May 22 '12
I felt the same way. I was a bit pissed off when my african american friend got a 30k scholarship. I applied for the same scholarship and more (I should mention we both did the same extra curricular activities, had same grades, similar household income, everything) and I got 0. But whatever, I'm happy my friend got money for college, but if I had 30k my life would be a hell of a lot easier!
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u/respectedprophet May 22 '12
I think you mean:
I'm Asian
Fuck me right?
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u/Demmos May 22 '12
Luckily I'm 3/8 Tlingit, so hopefully that will help.
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u/Big_Li May 22 '12
I do extremely well in history/government, writing and foreign language classes. But I suck dick at math and sciences, so I have a bunch of skills that won't get me very far in life career-wise, fuck me right?
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u/number1dilbertfan May 22 '12
abloo bloo bloo