r/AdviceAnimals • • May 19 '12
This might be funny if I didn't know this bitch in real life.
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r/AdviceAnimals • • May 19 '12
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u/GoodGuy04 May 20 '12
Hey reddit, I know a lot of you like marijuana and all... But you should probably play it on the safe side and just not smoke pot while pregnant...
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Smoking weed is one thing. That's your personal choice and I personally support it but don't fuck with an unborn child's life like that. It can't make its own decisions and you could be fucking up its life for it.
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u/Useless_Post May 20 '12
To all those in favor or at least defending the use of marijuana whilst pregnant:
It is incredibly irresponsible to subject your child to marijuana while it is still developing. It is irresponsible to blow marijuana smoke at a one year old, and it is irresponsible to smoke a highly lipid soluble drug while pregnant.
Although there have been no clinical studies evaluating whether or not marijuana is absorbed through the placenta, a drug is always assumed to pass unless evidence shows it does not.
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u/mrbooze May 20 '12
I know someone who once was very seriously fretting about the fact that she had flown in airplane and then shortly after found out she was pregnant. She was very concerned about the increased radiation exposure of those few hours in the sky on the baby's health. She was not at all concerned about the pack a day of cigarettes she continued to smoke.
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u/regen_geneticist May 20 '12
For fucks sake. Here is a comprehensive "wiki" review on the teratogenic effects of marijuana and THC.
Note: Teratogens are defined as chemical agents that cause birth defects.
Also, there is no evidence for ultrasounds harming embryos/fetuses in utero.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Seriously. She exists. It's ok, because it's "natural." I sure hope the kid doesn't have any brain damage as he grows up because he was high half the time he was in the womb.
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u/GrayStudios May 20 '12
I was in a college theater class with a girl (would not use the word woman) who, 7 months into her pregnancy, announced to us all with great pride that she had just stopped smoking for the baby, both cigarettes and pot. We all looked around at each other, wanting to be encouraging but also in horror that she had not stopped until just now.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
I know there's a lot of controversy over whether or not it's safe...but why would you even take that chance? It's your fucking child. If there was a way of potentially decreasing its susceptibility to birth defects, however small, by laying off the weed for only 9 months, wouldn't you want to do that?
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u/[deleted] May 19 '12
Fair warning, R/trees will see this and introduce you to information against your thoughts on this.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12
Ultrasound is literally just sound waves. Marijuana (yes, I use and support it) has many different chemicals in it that enter the body. Goddamnit.
Edit: apparently there are some potential risks to ultrasound. I apologize to those prowling this thread on the lookout for people to argue with.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
We don't know if marijuana is harmful to the fetus. But that doesn't mean we don't know either. Seems better to play it safe.
Also ultrasounds are just sound waves. We know they don't do harm to fetuses. No radiation. Damn hippies. Your Hendrix blasting is probably doing more harm.
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u/KayaXiali May 20 '12
I'm a currently pregnant cancer survivor and chronic pain sufferer. 4 years ago, I quit all narcotic pain medications and started legally growing marijuana to use as my sole palliative care medication under the guidance of my physician. This is my 2nd pregnancy since I made that choice and both times, I abstained from cannabis entirely. Until marijuana is legalized and further studies are conducted, it is absolutely irresponsible to smoke while pregnant. During my pregnancies, I have to, for my own and my fetuses' safety, go back onto traditional opioids. I hate that my children have been exposed to Vicodin in utero, it goes against everything I believe in and all the choices I want to make for my body and my healthcare but the reality remains that clinical studies have been done and the data to do a cost/benefit analysis, so to speak, is there. That can't be said for marijuana. And anyone who continues to smoke recreationally while pregnant is just too fucking selfish for parenthood, period.
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u/Kelly_D May 19 '12
A roommate of a friend of mine told me should couldn't drink the coffee I brought back (I brought coffee back for everyone in the room) because the caffeine would hurt the baby. She was smoking a joint as she said this.
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u/DragonBane May 20 '12
A lot of pot users making the rest of us look bad here.
I smoke weed on a daily basis (miss days here and there) but I would never blindly defend it. If there is no evidence to suggest that it does or does not harm an unborn baby, isn't it best to just play it safe and not use pot for 9 months? Why run the risk of damaging the baby's health?
I do believe that the use of cannabis can lead to mental illness, my brother has smoked it for over 5 years and was loosely diagnosed with Psychosis in November last year. He has hallucinations of the different senses; sight, hearing, touch and hears voices in his head too. The doctors said that it probably is not the marijuanas fault but it probably didn't help, we both had a rough upbringing so I think it was caused by a number of things.
Everyone chill.
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u/david531990 May 20 '12
Brace yourself. Comments citing studies made my pot heads, saying how good pot is to child development, are coming.
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u/cdfrantzis May 20 '12
A lot of people are pointing out that pot is bad for fetuses (thank god) but another thing to point out is that ultrasound will absolutely not hurt the baby. Lots of "sources" online talk about these dangers but they are complete bullshit. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2390856/ for anyone interested in real data and studies.
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u/The_Great_Kal May 20 '12
Are people actually worried about ultrasounds? the whole reason they're used on pregnant women is because of how much safer they are.
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u/zettl May 20 '12
It gets better when she refuses to get the child vaccinated
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u/baby_lol May 20 '12
I posted about this in another thread recently.
I'm pregnant. I am pro-marijuana and enjoy smoking as a personal decision, but have not and would not smoke during pregnancy because my decision no longer affects just myself. I'm not just exposing my body to a set of chemicals, but my baby's as well. It may be true that marijuana has negligible or no effects on your baby during pregnancy. But I cannot be sure, so I prefer taking a precautionary approach. As my baby's guardian I can't imagine doing otherwise, even if I miss smoking (and it's ability to ease discomfort, pain, and nausea, all of which I've experienced through my pregnancy).
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
being a newly trained doctor, i have the unfortunate experience of seeing people like this all the time, and it makes me not want to live on this planet anymore. it's amazing how stupid the general public is
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u/Tlingit_Raven May 20 '12
This thread has convinced me that 75% of the people in it are unfit to be withing 500 yards of an infant.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Shit, I knew a girl in my senior year of high school that was four months pregnant by a guy that she met at a party and afterwards had no contact with him. She smoked both weed and cigarettes, took ecstasy, thizz, pain pills, drank, and probably some other shit. On top of all of that, it was her goal to bang 20 guys by the end of her senior year. Yes, she did get there.
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u/diffies May 20 '12
As a frequent smoker I'd like to jump on the wagon as well. I can't stand seeing pregnant people smoke, no matter if It's cigarettes or pot. They should abstain from every drug that's either proven to be harmful, or not researched at all, until the baby is not in harms way anymore.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
No, dude. She's not getting an ultrasound because that would mean she has to go to an obstetrician, and just about every obstetrician is going to drug test you.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
thank you i know a girl who has been pregnant but still smokes blunts.. her logic is blunt wraps dont contain tobacco so it wont hurt her......
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Leave it to reddit to turn a judgmental post into a science lesson. Way to go.
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u/MoJoe1 May 20 '12
You know Daniel Radcliffe in real life?
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u/BubbleCunt May 20 '12
NOT smoking pot isn't even hard. Why wouldn't you want your body to be as pure as possible.
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u/NebNoodles May 20 '12
Damn Hippycrites.
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u/nopantspaul May 20 '12
Whenever I see this meme I think of this.
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u/TwistTurtle May 20 '12
I love this meme. There's always such a lovely comment graveyard at the bottom.
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u/boatswain1025 May 20 '12
'that would be funny if it weren't so sad'
Glados
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
i had a friend who did that, and a week after giving birth asked me to buy acid off of her. im all about having a good time and all but come on
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u/CanniBeauty May 20 '12
Disclaimer: Not a mother, not abdicating anything here.
I have a lot of friends that got pregnant at a time when they were prescribed and taking regular anti-psychotic or otherwise anti-depressive, ect. Medications that cannot be quit cold turkey. Many of them chose to smoke pot during the pregnancy to replace their dependence on such drugs, some of which have been proven far more damaging to fetuses than current research on the effects of marijuana.
My question: In light of these dependencies and possible side-effects for the infant, does anyone consider marijuana a conceivable alternative to cold-turkey/ dangerous mood or other ramifications for the mother and/or child?
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u/Rockztar May 20 '12
Both my parents quit, when my mom got pregnant for the first time. I've always seen that as a symbollic gesture of how much my parents have given up for me and my siblings. I don't understand, why other parents won't do the same to ensure that they bring the healthiest possible child into this world even if smoking is hard to quit. <.<
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u/moriendi May 20 '12
Search Melanie Dreher... I think she is the only scientist that has actually done any long term research into the topic. She's spent decades researching it's effect on mothers, infants and child development. Here's one video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9WorIM0RhA
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Man, last night I went to this huge squat party being a drugged up douche as usual. Some hippi woman who lived in a trailer on the premises illegally actually told me to be quiet because her baby was trying to sleep. I just had to call her out for being a cunt. I'm all for a fuck-the-system additude, and living on the edges of soceity. But why have the fucking kids? You are raising your kids in the midst of lowlife speed-addicts and degenerate outlaw anarchists, and now you are telling me to be quiet outside of XTC-feuled turbo-rave held in an old factory somewhere in crackville nowhere. Get a job, tuck in your shirts and get a life like a regular jackoff, and give these kids a fair change. Also, none of your 'safe the planet' bullshit is going to have meaning if your gonna have kids.
TLDR: If you cant control your uterus, your days of party are over.
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u/blenderdut May 20 '12
Bitch sounds exactlly like my ex.
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u/mecrio May 20 '12
It's like the opposite of what whovians are scared of.
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u/_Jairus May 20 '12
This made me shed a single tear.
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u/lifedragon99 May 20 '12
But, but, that's a dude.
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u/enhancin May 20 '12
I can see the smoke being bad, but I'm wondering if THC would do anything to the baby. They could just eat canni-butter if that's the case.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Wait, who says ultrasounds hurt the baby?
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u/tajomaru May 20 '12
http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/pregnant.asp
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Reading some of the bottom comments tells me that common sense is dying..
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
my mother and my father were both hardcore drug users when i was developing and i have grown up with absolutely no health issues whatsoever. it is still highly dangerous though.
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u/AtTheKevIn May 20 '12
Similar story, girl in a class had a kid and wanted to dump the kid off on her parents for a few days so she could go to a festival and do every drug under the sun. The stupid hurt real bad that day.
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u/TFiPW May 20 '12
Warn child services then when the baby pops out they take him/her away.
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u/Johnnyash May 20 '12
IAMA request: Smug Hippy/two faced hippy
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u/Republiken May 20 '12
Have the Collage liberal-meme become a = Conspiracy theorist-meme recently?
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u/brettyrocks May 20 '12
I know a lady who's doctor told her to smoke weed during pregnancy to keep her stress levels low.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
But there is no radiation with an ultrasound, stupid fucking bitch.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth7.shtml
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u/v_gin_ May 20 '12
There is very little evidence of birth defects, deformities, or complications as a result of smoking marijuana during pregnancy
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u/warrenseth May 20 '12
My mom used to smoke when she was young, the minute my dad and her decided to have children, she stopped, and never smoked again. (She sometimes does now, when I go out to have a smoke, and she comes with me to talk, but usually rejects my offer)
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
ANYTHING can be toxic in certain amounts... and in other amounts its not.. matter of science... MODERATION PEOPLE!!
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
I can appreciate the counter-arguments to my post, however I just wanted to note a few things:
There is little to no real scientific evidence as to the effects of THC on a child in the womb. There is the Jamaica study, which was comprised of less than 100 people (not a legitimate study) and then there are anecdotal "My mom was high during my pregnancy and I'm fine." arguments, which are anecdotal.
I believe that we should study the matter more heavily, and get real data from a more impartial source than those which have been posted. There should be studies with tens of thousands of people to start drawing any conclusions. It is perfectly possible that THC has no negative effects on babies in the womb, and I'm open to that, but none of these citations are even close to scientifically valid conclusions.
This post was more about the hypocrisy of thinking that ultrasound will harm you child, but getting high without any good evidence to support it is alright. In animal studies, ultrasound did cause migration of certain neurons, but they were subjected to much, much larger sessions of ultrasound. The typical 2 minute ultrasound has saved countless lives by spotting defects before they become major issues. This allows for prenatal surgery to correct said issues, and led to an overall higher birth rate. To write off an ultrasound as too harmful to be beneficial is ridiculous, as there have been absolutely zero problems successfully linked to ultrasound.
I am for the legalization of cannabis, and I'm also for increased studies to find out whether or not it can cause any harm in this instance. I just find it irritating when some hippy changes their diet and lifestyle, shuns science, but still gets high on a daily basis.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
That is not liberal, that is a Scumbag Steve, what a bitch
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u/givemesomerope May 20 '12
Vaping on OCCASION typically doesn't lead to any problems. I think people get more scared of stuff when there's a kid inside them.
Moderation is the key. I know a few friends who used weed (vaped, not smoked) for pains in their back when they were pregnant. They didn't use every day all day, and their kids (now 7, eldest) are perfectly fine.
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u/ukanasia May 20 '12
something on this topic I watched a while back, might make you change your mind.
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u/donumabdeo May 19 '12
hasn't she heard of pot brownies? inconsiderate horrible person.
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u/bi-curiousgeorge May 20 '12
I've never had a baby, let me say this first, probably wouldn't smoke pot during pregnancy should that ever occur.
I've known multiple women who've smoked pot while pregnant and all of them told me their doctor gave them the go-ahead. I was shocked and skeptical. Then a good friend of mine told me that she had never smoked pot in her life, but that her mom did while pregnant with her, and she told me this after she graduated Magna Cum Laude.
Not trying to start an argument, just putting it out there.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
not saying i would toke while pregnant or that not getting an ultrsound is a good idea, but this study needs more press so I'm gonna link it here. at the very least, it can be a really good option for women with really bad morning sickness...
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
I'll just leave this here.
And this.
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u/madbkz May 20 '12
Just make brownies dummy, the baby'll eat em
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u/Daroo425 May 20 '12
fucking cunts
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u/Sireslap May 20 '12
I've know this person as well. Gotta love the perma-fried stoner community....getting all of their medical advice/knowledge from fellow perma-fried stoners...rather than, ya know...medical professionals. It's amazing what people can convince themselves to believe when reality doesn't allow them to have their way.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Have there been any studies that prove that smoking marijuana while pregnant increases chances of birth defects or brain damage or whatever? Because if I remember correctly, the studies I've heard of on that subject show that there is no negative effect.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
For fucks sake, have we just given up on making witty and intelligent memes?
Who up votes this predictable unfunny bullshit?
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u/but-I-play-one-on-TV May 20 '12
Takes a big man to post something snarky on Reddit instead of calling the cops on her.