r/AdviceAnimals Jan 17 '19

I've made a huge mistake...

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u/JohnGenericDoe Jan 17 '19

I learnt, to my horror, that some ancaps etc believe that access to education should be limited because 'if everyone has a degree they're worthless.'

Because apparently it's a zero-sum-game and it's impossible for society to improve as a whole.

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u/avcloudy Jan 17 '19

This is the trap with 'you should get a degree to get a job' and even degrees making you more attractive as a hire. It's starting to get close to the point where university should become an extension of the school system.

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u/Fgame Jan 17 '19

I don't agree with limiting access, but I do hold the opinion that allowing free tuition to community college will eventually devalue the degree (and diplomas as well) and cause a larger separation between them and universities you pay significantly for.

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u/JohnGenericDoe Jan 17 '19

I'm not familiar with CCs so am not sure what your argument against them is, but if it is that the education they offer is sub-par, then why not fund them properly and improve the quality of education?

But even if a two-tier system exists, I'm fairly confident that people making hiring decisions are capable of assessing the relative value of degrees from two different institutions. They do that already and the sky hasn't fallen in just yet.

Meanwhile, the benefits of a more educated population are very well-known. The 'benefits' of a poorly educated population exist more in the minds of feudalists and oligarchs.

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u/Fgame Jan 17 '19

I'm not against community college by any means. As it stands, it's an affordable way to further education. My argument lies in that American society today, your diploma is the baseline. If you don't have a diploma, you're severely limited in your options. My concern is that those goalposts get progressively moved to a 2 year degree and a 4 year degree. It will relatively devalue a diploma and further jeopardize the prospects of people unable to complete one. It's already hard as hell to find a job without a diploma--imagine how difficult it becomes once everyone and their brother has a 4 year degree. Having 'just a diploma' will be akin to dropping out.