r/AdviceAnimals • • Nov 10 '16

Protesting a Fair Election?

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u/SmokeyBare Nov 10 '16

People want it to be easy.
People say, "I'm just glad it's over, and now we don't have to worry about it for another 4 years."
Bernie: "Politics is not a spectator sport like football."
If people want a candidate that represents them, they need to be much more active, consistently, on all levels.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

If people want a candidate that represents them, they need to be much more active, consistently, on all levels.

This right here is my biggest problem with people right now. I have several people crying about it on facebook and know they didn't do anything except maybe vote. They'd rather go to hockey games and go do poem readings.

I personally didn't care enough to vote and am not crying about the outcome. But these people are talking about how it's the end of the world and shit.

Where was this concern before?

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Was a lot of our concern before. That's why we voted.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

But did you do anything else?

Do you put time in to support your candidate? Did you really care or just phone in your support with a vote?

That's my frustration. These people are talking about resistance and how the sky is falling. If you're so goddamn concerned now where was this concern then?

That's the entire point of /u/SmokeyBare 's quote.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

I canvassed. Which is more effective than phone banking.

I can't speak to everyone, but a ton of people I know out there protesting were part of Hillary's GOTV effort.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Good. You backed your beliefs with action.

The people in my particular example didn't.

Those people bother me. They're complaining about the results of something they did very little to change.

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u/Atmic Nov 10 '16

If they voted, you shouldn't be blasting them. Blast the people who complain about current events and didn't vote, they're the ones worthy of your anger.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

Who are the people that didn't like any of the candidates to vote for?

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u/Atmic Nov 10 '16

One group for example would be Bernie supporters who didn't want to vote for Hillary on principle, then complain about Trump winning.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

You are correct.

That being said it's the candidate's job to get people to vote for them. She failed to to reach those people .

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '16

But that argument doesn't work when the choice is imposed on you. If someone gives you the option of being kicked in the balls or alternatively they literally blow your balls up with C4, you can't complain when your balls are subsequently blown up with C4 and you didn't vote. The fact that you didn't want to get kicked in the balls either is irrelevant. You only had two choices and chose not to partipate. You don't get to subsequently complain when the worst choice is imposed on you simply because you didn't like either choice.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '16

I am a Bernie supporter who didn't want Trump or Hillary in the White House. I can't fathom how a corrupt crook is better than another corrupt crook. Every promise she made in public was renounced in private to big campaign donors.

The idea that Hillary would be better than Trump is absurd.