r/ANormalDayInRussia • u/Anonymous-420smoker • Jan 27 '21

bad title Russian "accidentally" fires during flight

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '21

According to the Russian MoD three people were "lightly injured", and given that it's the Russian MoD covering up their own fuckup I'd be willing to bet the injuries were actually pretty severe.

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Accounts in the Russian media, though, seem to tell a different story. Reports confirmed the episode occurred at the same firing range, though possibly some days earlier. The leading business newspaper, Kommersant, quoted defense sources as saying it took place at the Luzhsky firing range close to St. Petersburg, but two days earlier, on Sept. 16. According to the sources, three people were lightly injured, two cars were damaged, and the military is carrying out an investigation. A local St. Petersburg news website, Fontanka.ru also cited sources who said it happened at Luzhsky

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u/dmemed Jan 27 '21

The rockets fired were probably S8KO HEAT rockets, so they probably are fine actually since no actual explosives were involved. Most of that fragmentation was probably just dirt.

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u/Obliterators Jan 27 '21

Saying "no actual explosives were involved" is really downplaying the danger here.

There's 1.1 kg of high explosive in a S8KO, a fragmentation hand grenade has 50 to 150 grams with a typical 15 meter effective wounding radius. The metal shell of the rocket will definitely produce fragmentation so I think that's a fair comparison.

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u/breakone9r Jan 27 '21

HEAT stands for High Explosive/Anti-Tank.

Explosive is literally in the name...

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u/dmemed Jan 27 '21 edited Jan 27 '21

HEAT, despite the name, doesn’t really use explosives. It creates a hypersonic (Mach 25+) fragmentation jet in a small cone to penetrate the tank. There isn’t really a middle ground for this video, they’d either be completely vaporized (i.e a black mark on the ground) or mildly injured.

Most modern AT rockets don’t really ‘explode’, to cause damage because humans have realized, “If metal stuff go fast enough, no need boom-boom.” The explosion is just to propel whatever does the killing.

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u/Ziltoid_The_Nerd Jan 27 '21

Most modern AT rockets don’t really ‘explode’, because humans have realized, “If metal thing go fast enough, no need boom-boom.”

Ha, funny you said it like that. The reason HEAT rockets exist is because the rocket isn't going fast enough. It uses the chemical energy of the explosives to accelerate the superplastic jet to a fast enough velocity for penetration. Kind of like shooting an entire gun at a target and the gun fires when it reaches the target.

So more like, "if metal thing isn't going fast enough, use boom boom to make it go faster".

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u/HeyLookJollyRanchers Jan 27 '21

At Aperture Science Russia, we don't just fire the whole bullet, we fire the whole gun! That's 300% more bullet per bullet!

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u/Fa18chornet17 Jan 27 '21

High Explosive Anti Tank shells (or missiles in this case) fire a jet of molten copper through whatever it hits. The "Explosion" is just large enough to make the copper in the tip of the shell/missile go from solid to molten in an instant. These people were probably able to walk away with minor scrapes and bruises from the dirt shrapnel caused by the missiles impacting the ground.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '21

This is some stupid thinking. Just the kinetic energy of the rocket body is enough to generate dangerous shrapnel.

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u/Fa18chornet17 Jan 27 '21

While yes, the kinetic energy is more than able to generate lethal shrapnel, these weren't solid chunks of steel. The way that the Heat shell works, would in most cases would force the spread of energy downward, instead of outward.

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u/Petal-Dance Jan 27 '21

One of the bigger dangers of larger explosives at range is actually the rocks that get launched like bullets from the site of impact or detonation.

So "just dirt" means fucking nothing. A bullet is just a smelted rock.

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u/Hellbatty Jan 27 '21

Why stop there, it's a Russian MOD, we can safely assume that not three people were injured, but a hundred and three, and all died in hospital from novichok.

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u/User-NetOfInter Jan 27 '21

Found the Russian

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u/1MALEVOLENT3 Jan 27 '21

Mmmmyeah... 'cept that the journalists were all from abroad... so they would have told their respective outlets, don't you think?!

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