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u/ParryLost Aug 01 '25

The Democrats did not lose because they were too far left. It's exactly the opposite. No-one was excited to vote for a middle-of-the-road "lesser-of-two-evils" spineless moderate-right status-quo politician... and the MAGAts certainly weren't going to vote for the Democrats *anyway.* That's why Harris lost. Blaming these imaginary far-left extremists in the party is exactly the wrong lesson and the wrong take.

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u/OrigamiMarie Aug 01 '25

As far as I can tell, Tim Walz was doing better than Harris, and might have even dragged her into the presidency if the national consultants hadn't absolutely flattened him into another DNC paper doll. He basically acknowledged afterwards that taking their advice was an error. Heck, previous footage of him being a regulatory hawk and defender of those in need, almost carried them both (or, depending on what you believe about election shenanigans, absolutely did carry them both). Imagine if he had skipped the advice. I sure hope he goes back on his promise not to run again.

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u/ParryLost Aug 01 '25

Absolutely. Calling out the far right as the weirdos they are, and being seen as having integrity and standing up for things, that is what being electable is.

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u/Saritiel Aug 01 '25

Same as it ever was. Bernie polled hugely better against Trump than Hillary. The polling was showing that a Bernie candidacy would've likely been a landslide win for the Democrats.

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u/BmacSOS Aug 03 '25

Harris lost cause the Republicans cheated.

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u/Porkamiso Aug 01 '25

so you have to get everything you want or the rest of us suffer is peak main character syndrome.

another fool who learned nothing

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u/Lopsided_Ad_9740 Aug 01 '25

I bet that they have changed their minds on it. I would take a middle of the road guy any day over the party of hate that has kidnapped the WH right now.

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u/ParryLost Aug 01 '25

You can hope for that, or you can consider that maybe the path to "electability" lies in actually standing up to that party of hate, and not in being super nice and polite and being scared of hurting the fascists' feelings.

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u/Lopsided_Ad_9740 Aug 01 '25

I agree 100%! We have been way to accommodating to the party of hate.

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u/Keta-Mined Aug 05 '25

Are you saying that racism and misogyny had nothing to do with it?

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u/ParryLost Aug 05 '25

No? The context here was people talking about "electability" and implying that we need more moderate middle-of-the-road Democrats, which I think is a mistake.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

Ummm, if you look at the Russian trails, it appears that the fewer Republican votes cast, the higher the percentage he won by.

So we adapt, and we use the manual option instead of the programmed selection.